Might have to eat my own words re: quarantine

[vaporize]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Chloroquine phosphate can be found at any drug store and works the same as diphosphate. My vet is examining a fish right now and will give me a script for it.
Copper is not an option in my mind, I think it does more harm to the fish long term.
The hang on is fine, it only has carbon if you add carbon But yes, a foam block carefully maintained could work.

Chloroquine phosphate is "off the counter" drug without prescription?

Well copper might have negative long term effect, but if the fish does not even live, what does it matter if it has long term because it has no term if it dies ;-D

I wonder if chloroquine phosphate actually can cure brooklynella too - your vet know?

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by vaporize

Chloroquine phosphate is "off the counter" drug without prescription?

Well copper might have negative long term effect, but if the fish does not even live, what does it matter if it has long term because it has no term if it dies ;-D

I wonder if chloroquine phosphate actually can cure brooklynella too - your vet know?

No, it's a prescription drug, which is why the vet is involved. And yes, it treats brooklynella as well.
I think copper, at this point, would simply kill the fish. And wreck the tank. And all the rock in it. This is my future frag tank, and I don't want to have to dismantle it to clean it.
From what I've read, the CP works really well and quickly. I should have it shortly.

[vaporize]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

No, it's a prescription drug, which is why the vet is involved. And yes, it treats brooklynella as well.
I think copper, at this point, would simply kill the fish. And wreck the tank. And all the rock in it. This is my future frag tank, and I don't want to have to dismantle it to clean it.
From what I've read, the CP works really well and quickly. I should have it shortly.

Thanks, please update us when you apply it

Are you getting the actual chemical or the human version of the drug (I think it's Aralen) ?

(don't know that you are going to apply to a reef tank - hopefully no negative effects)

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by vaporize

Thanks, please update us when you apply it

Are you getting the actual chemical or the human version of the drug (I think it's Aralen) ?

(don't know that you are going to apply to a reef tank - hopefully no negative effects)

I'm getting the tabs (Arelen) but have a compounding pharmacy trying to source the diphosphate salt. The tabs are 155mg active ingredient.

And no, not in the display tank, it's highly toxic to algae, meaning it would kill all the corals. Inverts seem to do fine (shrimps/clams, etc).

[howdy20012002]

it is amazing how these scaled covered things start to have meaning in one's life.
you aren't just losing a few fish, it is like you are losing a few friends.
sorry to hear it is going so badly.

[Aquattro]

I think half the bad was caused by the treatment tank having no mature filter

[Coralgurl]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

I think half the bad was caused by the treatment tank having no mature filter

So sorry for your losses. I did the same thing a few months ago, set up an emerg qt, moved all my fish and treated with copper. No cycle, no cycled filter. Within hours I lost my clowns and slowly lost all but my chromis and cardinal, in total 6 fish. After 6 weeks the chromis developed lympho, at that point I decided enough. I couldn't get the ammonia to 0 even though I was changing the water everyday, cleaning the filters, vacuuming uneaten food and poop. I moved the fish back to the dt, the chromis dies within a week, still have the cardinal. I've only dealt with ich, nothing as serious as what you are dealing with, but I said I'd never qt another fish as it seemed what I was doing ended up being just cruel. I'll be switching tanks soon and hoping to keep my smaller tank running as a qt but have not yet decided.

I don't have any advise to offer you, I hope this all gets sorted out and you don't lose everything.

[Veng68]

this place has it http://www.fishchemical.com/Products...2937.Item.html

But I think you have to have a business to order it in for you and not to sure if you can get it shipped to Canada (although it says they ship to 14 countries).

I won't feel so go shipping it to my friend in the States and trying to bring a 1 kilo bag of white power across the border.

Cheers,
Vic

[Aquattro]

Thanks Vic, I'll look into that.