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Old 03-02-2010, 12:40 AM
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To be fair, the hard disk crashes I touted as being frequent are from ten years ago when I had Windows machines. I agree hardware improvements have probably minimized this. Most of the people I know have Macs and none of them have had a hard disk crash, while a minority of my friends have PCs and I have heard of a few crashes. Yes, of course Vista is the source of many of the problems and viruses will make up for some as well.

Over the past ten years I have had to work on my wife's PCs and pay for repairs. Maybe it's just my good luck with Macs and my wife's bad luck with PCs, but I haven't had to replace anything on any of my Macs with exception to a burnt out wifi card on my current MacBook Pro (I used to leave it on 24/7 and failed to vent it when I use it on my leather laptop cover).

Viruses are a constant issue with PCs, regardless of the motives. The processor speed is better with Snow Leopard and the upgrade from Leopard is only $28.00. I bet there are a few Vista users who wish they could pay that for Windows 7. I get free updates for all Apple software. I was under the impression that this wasn't the case with Microsoft programs.

This review shows the speed comparison.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31012_7...-10355804.html

Mac computers are more intuitive and therefore easier to use and run more reliably. If you like working on your computer, then the PC is the right choice. If you like working with your computer, Mac is the sensible choice.

If you are a gamer, then Windows is a better OS, no questions asked. I don't play video games, so that wasn't a factor for me.
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Old 03-02-2010, 04:29 AM
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Yes, of course Vista is the source of many of the problems and viruses will make up for some as well.



This review shows the speed comparison.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31012_7...-10355804.html

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hmm I have three computers running vista, a desktop that is never shut off, my new laptop which is never shut off, and my old laptop is running it now. never had a problem with anyof them so I don't know how you can say vista is a problem. it is slower than people would like but the most friendlyest software there has been untill win7.

also your test you linked to is garbage, everthing he does in win 7 has to go through a subset of instructions and drivers to make it work with the mac hardware.. thing that might slow it down a bit? the author even says multiple times that it is a unfair test for win 7. you need to start reading things befor you link to them, as all the stuff you have posted so far just show how apple users will fuge numbers to make the apples look way better. wanna see something impressive.. try find a copy of BEOS 5 and install it on your mac, or a PC as it will run properly on any platfor from a clean state. it will make both win 7 and snow lepard look like slugs. problem was BEOS fell victom to Linux Warp OS2 and Win95 advertizing campains but it is still one of the best OSs I have ever played with. only problem is that after spending over 23mill fighting MS in court they went bankrupt.

as for more intuitive.. I guess if you have never had a computer mac might seem more simple.. if you have been using a PC for 20 years it wouldn't.. I found it weird and not very intuitive so that argument is a to each his own and what one person finds simple another doesn't. personaly I don't see how you can get any more simple than clicking on a icon, or if there is a program you don't use very often, you hit start then click on the name of the program.. hmm guess that isn't obvious to some people.


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Old 03-02-2010, 05:11 AM
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I think the whole argument is getting silly. Basically, if you can afford the Mac buy it. You won't regret it as it will just work out of the box. If the budget is really a major constraint you should get one of the cheaper Windows machines as it will likely still do the job for you and you will have a few bucks in your pocket.

But to argue that Macs are unreasonably overpriced or the Windows machines are significantly slower is just silly. Neither point is right. You pay a bit more for a Mac to get a better UI and a better integrated and more hassle free system with a bit more useful included software. Windows will work for you too but you will always have more worries with viruses and potential hardware incompatibilities because of the wide variability in hardware in the Windows world. IMO Windows is also far less intuitive and elegant to work with then the Mac OS and you can be more productive on the Mac because of it but I'm sure others will feel differently. It's a matter of opinion.
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Old 03-02-2010, 06:09 AM
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Both of the links I have given show that the Mac OS is faster than PC. If you challenge their criteria, that is fine with me. I'm not here to convert anyone. It sounds like you enjoy a challenge. Apple will let you down every time if you are looking for a challenge.
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And the result is;


http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/produ...baa8b63f96en02

Many thanks to all who contributed to the thread. Hope its helpful to others also.

Steve, you and SF were pretty convincing and I was pretty close to the purchase of the HP I listed before. I stopped in today and the $1300 iMac was on for $1149 plus free $100 set up.

Was just to hard to to say no. No particular reason. Just appealed to me and what I need.

Now to figure it out and get things transfered. Grabbed a 4g Flashdrive.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:05 AM
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You would have been happy with either choice. Enjoy your new computer.
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Old 03-06-2010, 02:32 AM
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thats not a laptop, I thought you were looking for a laptop?

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Congrats. You will love the iMac. It's a great machine!
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