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Old 06-29-2010, 06:40 AM
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I have a Blackberry flip ......well, I had one, now it doesn't turn on.

WARNING: DO NOT BUY THIS PHONE!! POS.
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:03 AM
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no ones mentioning any of the android phones eh been using androids (htc dream, now SE X10) loving it. True multitasking, open OS for full customization (after root) all the nice google apps including the new google navigation (free GPS software), free google sync contacts/apps. lol i sound like im promoting there software.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:43 PM
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BB Curve here, but I didn't have a choice in the matter, it's was provided by my employer. I'm pretty happy with it. It does what it's supposed too.
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Old 06-29-2010, 02:56 PM
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I have the blackberry storm and befor may I loved it, now I even love it more. new software upgrade was a good fix.

I had the plesure of using my older kids iphone for the weekend so I left the BBerry at home and gave it an honest shakedown. needless to say I will be sticking with my blackberry.

one thing I did notice is a lot of people are saying they had such and suck of a bberry and switched to the iphone and would never go back. kinda a unfair statment since all you people went to a different class of phone. the only bberry that can realy be compared against the iphone is the storm or storm 2

Hey Griz, it is n't the Bberry that sucks it is the mike. I know to many people that had been conned into the mike world and hate it and have had noting but problems. you can get what you want out of telus but you have to call them at there head office not the little stores. Oh where do you keep your phone when your workin?

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I have a Motorola Milestone aka Droid, and I really like it too. There are tons free apps and the Android OS is very stable. Google is the way to go!

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no ones mentioning any of the android phones eh been using androids (htc dream, now SE X10) loving it. True multitasking, open OS for full customization (after root) all the nice google apps including the new google navigation (free GPS software), free google sync contacts/apps. lol i sound like im promoting there software.
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Hated my old BB. Love my iPhone 3GS, always been a big fan of apple.
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no ones mentioning any of the android phones eh been using androids (htc dream, now SE X10) loving it. True multitasking, open OS for full customization (after root) all the nice google apps including the new google navigation (free GPS software), free google sync contacts/apps. lol i sound like im promoting there software.
Android Galaxy running community created 2.1 ROM. Once you go open source you can never go back.
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I know I'm almost a fanboy but the new iPhone 4 is really head and shoulders above anything else. It has an awesome screen that is high resolution and much brighter and easier to see outside in sunlight. Built in video chat, much more sensitive motion sensing for better response from apps, much faster processor, multitasking. Also a much improved camera that you can shoot and high definition movies and do post production right on the phone with an iPhone version of iMovie. Oh yeah, folders to help organize your apps, the iBooks store so you can buy and read books on it (no more killing trees for your reading pleasure), and a improved mail app in iOS 4 too.

Android is okay but for an overall stable and easy user experience with well integrated features you need to go iPhone. I also would not want to have to worry about malicious apps. Apple checks and approves every app available to make sure they don't do anything they aren't supposed to. Google unfortunately lets anybody sell you whatever pp they want without any checking or security.
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Android is okay but for an overall stable and easy user experience with well integrated features you need to go iPhone. I also would not want to have to worry about malicious apps. Apple checks and approves every app available to make sure they don't do anything they aren't supposed to. Google unfortunately lets anybody sell you whatever pp they want without any checking or security.
Well Ron we agree on most things but the above statements are not true. Before I address each I must predict that you have never used an Android phone and so your comment about stability and user experience is without warrant. If you have been an Android user what problems did you experience? What version? Remember the first iPhone OS?

Apple or Google simply cannot approve and check the hundreds of thousands of user submitted apps. Malicious iPhone apps? You betcha:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/18376...pp_report.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10446402-245.html

Any paid app in Google Market has to go through an application process that includes identity of the submitter, same as a bank check, thus a trail is available in case of complaint.

A jailbroken iPhone is super vulnerable to attack if the user does not bother to change root password and a quick survey of the iPhone users here with jailbroken iPhones do not know even what Root is.
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Well Ron we agree on most things but the above statements are not true. Before I address each I must predict that you have never used an Android phone and so your comment about stability and user experience is without warrant. If you have been an Android user what problems did you experience? What version? Remember the first iPhone OS?

Apple or Google simply cannot approve and check the hundreds of thousands of user submitted apps. Malicious iPhone apps? You betcha:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/18376...pp_report.html
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10446402-245.html

Any paid app in Google Market has to go through an application process that includes identity of the submitter, same as a bank check, thus a trail is available in case of complaint.

A jailbroken iPhone is super vulnerable to attack if the user does not bother to change root password and a quick survey of the iPhone users here with jailbroken iPhones do not know even what Root is.
Hey Keith,

I have only checked out Android a bit and obviously not all the different phones. The problem with Android is that different phones and manufacturers may be using different versions of the firmware and OS and updates may not even cover all the phones out there. The problem with so called "open" phone OSes is similar to the problems with Windows. You have to support umpteen different hardware configurations, input methods, screens etc. The user experience may differ from phone to phone as will the available feature set. The term for that is fragmentation and it is a problem with Android.

While techies may like the open nature and hackability/customization available with Android, the vast majority of people would rather have something that is straightforward and easy to use out of the box. That is the iPhone. It just works with a fine tuned user interface and extremely well integrated services and features that are consistent across devices. Apple's control does result in an excellent product.

As for malicious software, the links you provided were for theoretical exploits but to date Apple has not allowed any malicious apps to get through. They do check the functionality of software under the hood and have caught apps doing things they shouldn't (even though it wasn't malicious code).

Google on the other hand does not actually check apps to the same degree. In fact just this last week Google remote killed two apps that were doing things that were against the rules. But thousands of people had likely installed them by the time they were caught:

http://www.tipb.com/2010/06/25/googl...-users-phones/

You might also want to read this PDF that discusses security concerns with the Android market:

http://threatcenter.smobilesystems.c...6-22-10-v1.pdf

Yes, a jailbroken iPhone is vulnerable but then you are hacking Apple's system so that would be your own darn fault. It would be akin to hacking Windows and then blaming Microsoft if you had a problem. If you don't jailbreak the phone and use it as Apple intends then you are far safer then with Android. There really is no need to jailbreak an iPhone.

With regards to enterprise support, Apple went a long way to doing that in iPhone OS 3 and have added even more in iOS 4. It will only keep getting better with future updates.

http://www.securityweek.com/iphone-4...nes-enterprise

Finally, with respect to the antenna issue, it may or may not be a real problem. Some people experience it and some don't. The root cause is also under investigation. Adding a case seems to help. Some people have seen the problem resolved by reseating the sim card. Some say that all is required is a firmware update to increase the speed at which the phone shifts frequencies when the signal degrades. So it's a bit of an unknown at the moment. But I would say the majority of the 1.5 million iPhone 4s sold so far are operating without problem. you also have to remember this is not just an iPhone problem but many mobile phones experience signal attenuation depending on how you hold them. It is a function of the way antennas work vs. your bodies own electrical conductivity.
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