Swine Flu/H1N1 Vaccination - Yes or No?

[intarsiabox]

I've made some posts in this thread in the past and I keep telling myself to stop looking at it, but I can't!!! I don't agree with everything on here but that doesn't make it any less interesting. So I thought I would share my families flu shot history. Myself, I had a cold 4 years ago and can't rememeber the last time I had the flu. I got the flu shot once a couple years ago and I never got sick but that's not unusual. My wife has athsma so she always gets the flu shot and is usually healthy. While pregnant with our last child she didn't get the flu shot and was sick with colds and flus for 8 months straight and refused to take any type of meds. Since then she gets the shot yearly and no more problems. Kids get the shot yearly as well and neither hardly ever gets sick despite being in school and daycare. Both of us questioned the H1N1 vaccine but after researching the more credible info we decided that for our childrens sake it was worth getting. We've all had vaccines in the past without issue and this years was no different. I relieze that this flu isn't the plague but unlike other flus healthy kids are dy ing and I won't risk my children even if the odds were 1 in a billion of dying from it. It's been a week now since the shot and so far none of us are sick or have developed any mutations or unrelated diseases and I haven't discovered any listening devices in my house. Although all the Calgary Flames got the shot so maybe it really is poison after all!

[Veng68]

The Raptors, Leafs and Chilliwack Heat also got the H1N1 shots. I bet most sports teams have had it already.

Cheers,
Vic

[Oceanic]

I got my shot yesterday, I am am not clucking like a chicken, I am not now confined to a wheel chair, I am not paranoid that the government is now tracking me, and I am not worried about the uber tiny amount of Mercury in the vaccine!

Also;

Man did land on the moon!

Aids was not created by the U.S. military!

The world will not end in 2012!

September 11 was not orchestrated by the U. S. government!

Barcodes are not really intended to Control people!

And finally,

Kentucky Fried Chicken does not make black men impotent!

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Oceanic

Man did land on the moon!

Aids was not created by the U.S. military!

The world will not end in 2012!

September 11 was not orchestrated by the U. S. government!

Barcodes are not really intended to Control people!

And finally,

Kentucky Fried Chicken does not make black men impotent!

Not that I'm disputing any of that but you can't prove any of it and if you truly believe everything in the media meaning you believe this is the same person, I feel sorry for you.



I'm not saying I believe all these conspiracy theory's but sometimes we don't have all the facts and there are certainly things that do get covered up.

[Oceanic]

Originally Posted by sphelps

Not that I'm disputing any of that but you can't prove any of it and if you truly believe everything in the media meaning you believe this is the same person, I feel sorry for you.



I'm not saying I believe all these conspiracy theory's but sometimes we don't have all the facts and there are certainly things that do get covered up.

Yeah, I do believe some things are covered up but the majority of the conspiracies are just rediculous!

I think the picture on the left is actually Russell Peters with a beard and turbin.

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Oceanic

Yeah, I do believe some things are covered up but the majority of the conspiracies are just rediculous!

Well of course they are, but I believe that's the whole point. You see the media can do the same thing but most people will believe ridiculous stories just because it's on the news or on TV. I believe the point of a lot of these theories is simply to get your attention and point out some of the obvious holes that exist which will show you that the same information can be looked at in completely different way. Then just maybe people will start to think a little more for themselves instead of believing whatever is presented to you. Of course there are the two byproducts which are the two types of people on the extreme of either side, one that only believes everything the media believes and the other that only believes crazy conspiracy theories. I believe where we should be is somewhere in the middle asking questions and trying to get as many facts as possible before making a decision.

[Chowder]

I think it has officially gotten out of hand.

[intarsiabox]

Originally Posted by Veng68

The Raptors, Leafs and Chilliwack Heat also got the H1N1 shots. I bet most sports teams have had it already.

Cheers,
Vic

I don't know how things are in BC but in Alberta they all but ran out of vaccines and they allowed the Flames to jump the que and go ahead of all the high risk people and children. The gov't also paid a private clinic with public tax money to do it so nobody would know. At least one person has already been fired for it.

[midgetwaiter]

Originally Posted by intarsiabox

I don't know how things are in BC but in Alberta they all but ran out of vaccines and they allowed the Flames to jump the que and go ahead of all the high risk people and children. The gov't also paid a private clinic with public tax money to do it so nobody would know. At least one person has already been fired for it.

That's not really fair, when the clinic setup for the Flames was done the gov was still in free for all mode, I don't think they realized what was going to happen. The Flames have been pretty up front about this whole thing, they felt having all the players go to a public clinic would have been a circus so they approached AHS. That's a pretty understandable thing IMO. It doesn't make sense to send somebody out to vaccinate 30 guys so they took care of as many people as they could while they were there. The Flames are no more at fault for shortages than anyone else who has already received the vaccination.

The failure here was the way AHS setup the vaccination program from the beginning. Alberta is the only province that failed to prioritize high risk groups, this seriously magnified the problems. When they did decide to setup a schedule they misprinted the age of children allowed access in the first run of the newspaper ads.

It pretty much renders the discussion we are having moot for Albertans. It goes from "will you get the shot" to "can you get the shot".

[Binare]

Originally Posted by midgetwaiter

That's not really fair, when the clinic setup for the Flames was done the gov was still in free for all mode, I don't think they realized what was going to happen. The Flames have been pretty up front about this whole thing, they felt having all the players go to a public clinic would have been a circus so they approached AHS. That's a pretty understandable thing IMO. It doesn't make sense to send somebody out to vaccinate 30 guys so they took care of as many people as they could while they were there. The Flames are no more at fault for shortages than anyone else who has already received the vaccination.

The failure here was the way AHS setup the vaccination program from the beginning. Alberta is the only province that failed to prioritize high risk groups, this seriously magnified the problems. When they did decide to setup a schedule they misprinted the age of children allowed access in the first run of the newspaper ads.

It pretty much renders the discussion we are having moot for Albertans. It goes from "will you get the shot" to "can you get the shot".

I'm sure atleast one of them read the paper that mornin, I'm sure atleast one of them knew the clinics were bein shutdown due to shortage. I woulda jumped ship for my families sake too, but I'd take the flack like a man.