Swine Flu/H1N1 Vaccination - Yes or No?

[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Ron99

I just think it is also maybe wrong to mistrust the vaccine automatically because you mistrust the pharma industry, along with most other industries. I think that is doing yourself a great disservice. It might be better to focus on the specifics of this case and ask yourself, what are the risks to me from contracting H1N1? What are the risks to society from an uncontrolled H1N1 pandemic? What are the risks to me associated with taking the vaccine? All I would like to see is a rational discussion supported by facts and evidence rather then the hysteria and misinformation that seems to prevalent.

Mistrust was never mentioned by me, so you must be assuming I mistrust them which I'm certainly not saying is the case. I'm just saying you can't necessarily trust such companies more than you would other companies. A human life is a human life and many companies make products which in some way can affect that.
Those are good questions and I assure you I've considered all of them and I'm not in the least bit concerned because I've done and am doing what I believe is necessary to keep myself healthy and safe. I was never concerned about the H1N1 and I was even in Mexico at the height of the scare last spring. In addition I've never once had the flu, my methods and reasoning however are based on my own findings and beliefs and I don't see how stating them benefits anyone else. You got to do somethings by yourself, I would never offer medical advice since I'm not a doctor and doing so would be unethical from my point of view.

[Snaz]

I wonder what the results of the same poll would be today?

[Ron99]

Originally Posted by Snaz

I wonder what the results of the same poll would be today?

Personally I would take this poll with a grain of salt as it is hardly a scientifically or statistically well set up poll. I would guess a number of the people who voted for a conspiracy did so tongue in cheek.

Originally Posted by sphelps

Mistrust was never mentioned by me, so you must be assuming I mistrust them which I'm certainly not saying is the case. I'm just saying you can't necessarily trust such companies more than you would other companies. A human life is a human life and many companies make products which in some way can affect that.
Those are good questions and I assure you I've considered all of them and I'm not in the least bit concerned because I've done and am doing what I believe is necessary to keep myself healthy and safe. I was never concerned about the H1N1 and I was even in Mexico at the height of the scare last spring. In addition I've never once had the flu, my methods and reasoning however are based on my own findings and beliefs and I don't see how stating them benefits anyone else. You got to do somethings by yourself, I would never offer medical advice since I'm not a doctor and doing so would be unethical from my point of view.

Fair enough. I think it is important to remember that the pharma industry is one of the most heavily regulated ones around. Far more then car companies. If there were a problem with a drug or vaccine that came to light then it would and should be re-examined and could likely be pulled from the market. This has happened several times in the past. there is much closer scrutiny of drugs than any other product I can think of.

[Snaz]

Originally Posted by Ron99

Personally I would take this poll with a grain of salt as it is hardly a scientifically or statistically well set up poll. I would guess a number of the people who voted for a conspiracy did so tongue in cheek.

Oh no arguing that point. What I meant was I wonder how the public feels about the vaccine now that we have had a week of media hype and some dead children.

[megs_clark]

Iv deffinitly changed my mind over the past 2 weeks. 2 weeks ago I was totaly against my kids having the vaccine. I thought it was a new vaccine (Its not) And i thought that it had not had enough time to be tested long term possible side affects. I partialy changed my mind after seeing the tv special that showed how it affected Australia during their flu season and how many pefectly healthy people the H1N1 killed their. Not to mention how many people it has killed here. So many people think its only really affecting people with underlying health problems but it seems to randomly be hitting perfectly heathy people harder then was originaly expected. I think thats the scary part that people need to look at. No one knows how their body will handle it. I have 2 kids under 5 in my house as well as two teenagers and the highscool my stepdaughter goes to has had many kids come down with it. They didnt notify anyone or any students. I only found out by calling and asking if any students have had it. I think its in everyones communitys more then people are aware, because its not being broadcast where it is that people have died. I also think that in this day in age with us being so over populated that pandemics are much more easly spread then they were before. I could totaly be wrong on that. But to me more people, means more diseases, more easily spread, that have more access to morphing (is that the word) into becoming much more dangerous strains. So If asked a week or two ago i would have said no to the vaccine, but if asked now Id say yes im getting my kids vaccinated. Though still leary i think i will and am just waiting for the hype to die down before bringing my family in. ( i dont want my kids exposed to anything in a doctors waiting room that has 50 people in it) I also think that people cant base their opinions off of Utube, That seems really silly when their are so many informative sites you could be reading up on.

[intarsiabox]

I've made some posts in this thread in the past and I keep telling myself to stop looking at it, but I can't!!! I don't agree with everything on here but that doesn't make it any less interesting. So I thought I would share my families flu shot history. Myself, I had a cold 4 years ago and can't rememeber the last time I had the flu. I got the flu shot once a couple years ago and I never got sick but that's not unusual. My wife has athsma so she always gets the flu shot and is usually healthy. While pregnant with our last child she didn't get the flu shot and was sick with colds and flus for 8 months straight and refused to take any type of meds. Since then she gets the shot yearly and no more problems. Kids get the shot yearly as well and neither hardly ever gets sick despite being in school and daycare. Both of us questioned the H1N1 vaccine but after researching the more credible info we decided that for our childrens sake it was worth getting. We've all had vaccines in the past without issue and this years was no different. I relieze that this flu isn't the plague but unlike other flus healthy kids are dy ing and I won't risk my children even if the odds were 1 in a billion of dying from it. It's been a week now since the shot and so far none of us are sick or have developed any mutations or unrelated diseases and I haven't discovered any listening devices in my house. Although all the Calgary Flames got the shot so maybe it really is poison after all!

[Veng68]

The Raptors, Leafs and Chilliwack Heat also got the H1N1 shots. I bet most sports teams have had it already.

Cheers,
Vic