Swine Flu/H1N1 Vaccination - Yes or No?

[VFX]

Ok being very simplistic here so bare with me...

Birds get flu.

Pigs get flu.

People get flu.

People rarely get bird flu or pig flu. Birds rarely get pig flu or human flu. (they sometimes do but apart from H5N1, it's rare)

Pigs are the link here. They can get both human & bird flu.

However, it's not normal for the flu virus to mutate to such a point that pigs can easily infect humans. It's even more rare for that virus to then mutate so that there's human to human contamination.

With that level of mutation it's likely that the H1N1 virus will mutate again.

Between 2005 & 2008 only dozen people in the US got swine flu. What changed in 2009? Why the sudden worldwide outbreak? Why does H1N1 not have the protein PB1-F2 & how does this effect the virulence & lethality of the flu?

The 22m vaccinations with adjuvants you speak of, do these mix fish oils with aluminium & mercury & other undisclosed biologicals? You have the data on this so it'd be great to let us all know.

When I ask what do you really know, I don't mean in terms of pharmacology, I mean with what's happening on a bigger scale. The larger picture of you will.

You may think it's getting silly to talk of all the different conspiracy theories out there but the one thing they do have in common is population reduction, control over world governments & the end of times.

I'm not saying I believe all those theories, but why discount them & ridicule them? Do you know for sure that everything we're told about the world is the truth?

Anecdotal I know, but I've been advised not to take the H1N1 vaccine by my GP, my partner (pharmaceuticals), the Head of Immunisation for ........ (province name withheld to avoid indentifying him without his permission), a surgeon in the same province, my family doctor in the UK & countless articles in the mainstream & alternative media.

GSP - did you get a preventative Tamiflu 'script because of your asthma condition?

Also, (and maybe Ron can answer this one too) how does Vit. D (or specifically Vit. D3 according to some) help against H1N1? I understand that it helps against bone dificiencies & helps the absorbtion of calcium & other elements but I'm unsure how it helps against flu.

I'm not being ignorant or arrogant but asking as many questions as I need to help me (& hopefully many others) learn.

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[VFX]

From the WHO:

As of 18th October 2009.

Number of cases Worldwide: Over 414945

Number of Deaths Worldwide: At least 4999

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[GreenSpottedPuffer]

Originally Posted by VFX

Ok being very simplistic here so bare with me...

Birds get flu.

Pigs get flu.

People get flu.

People rarely get bird flu or pig flu. Birds rarely get pig flu or human flu. (they sometimes do but apart from H5N1, it's rare)

Pigs are the link here. They can get both human & bird flu.

However, it's not normal for the flu virus to mutate to such a point that pigs can easily infect humans. It's even more rare for that virus to then mutate so that there's human to human contamination.

With that level of mutation it's likely that the H1N1 virus will mutate again.

Between 2005 & 2008 only dozen people in the US got swine flu. What changed in 2009? Why the sudden worldwide outbreak? Why does H1N1 not have the protein PB1-F2 & how does this effect the virulence & lethality of the flu?

The 22m vaccinations with adjuvants you speak of, do these mix fish oils with aluminium & mercury & other undisclosed biologicals? You have the data on this so it'd be great to let us all know.

When I ask what do you really know, I don't mean in terms of pharmacology, I mean with what's happening on a bigger scale. The larger picture of you will.

You may think it's getting silly to talk of all the different conspiracy theories out there but the one thing they do have in common is population reduction, control over world governments & the end of times.

I'm not saying I believe all those theories, but why discount them & ridicule them? Do you know for sure that everything we're told about the world is the truth?

Anecdotal I know, but I've been advised not to take the H1N1 vaccine by my GP, my partner (pharmaceuticals), the Head of Immunisation for ........ (province name withheld to avoid indentifying him without his permission), a surgeon in the same province, my family doctor in the UK & countless articles in the mainstream & alternative media.

GSP - did you get a preventative Tamiflu 'script because of your asthma condition?

Also, (and maybe Ron can answer this one too) how does Vit. D (or specifically Vit. D3 according to some) help against H1N1? I understand that it helps against bone dificiencies & helps the absorbtion of calcium & other elements but I'm unsure how it helps against flu.

I'm not being ignorant or arrogant but asking as many questions as I need to help me (& hopefully many others) learn.

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I think you have to keep an open mind and some of those theories are pretty "out there" and some are more likely but all are certainly possible. We are all so well trained to obey and not question how/why things work. I think its crazy how many people actually are so closed minded and think "it's just not possible". I don't necessarily believe in most of them myself but I also don't not believe in them if that makes sense. Do you really think the "people at the top" or in power if you will (and that doesn't at all mean government), live in the same world you and I do?

It was my fiancee who was prescribed Tamiflu as a precaution because she is asthmatic. Im not sure many doctors will do that but it's a family member who knows her medical background very well and like I said does not want us to get the vaccination. Her asthma was very severe about 7 years back and she was hospitalized a few times for it. In the past 5 years though, she has not had the flu once and rarely gets even a slight cold. In his opinion, she is not at a higher risk of getting H1N1 but the concern is how her immune system would react if she did get it. He just wanted her to be able to take Tamiflu right away if needed.

[VFX]

Originally Posted by GreenSpottedPuffer

I think you have to keep an open mind and some of those theories are pretty "out there" and some are more likely but all are certainly possible. We are all so well trained to obey and not question how/why things work. I think its crazy how many people actually are so closed minded and think "it's just not possible". I don't necessarily believe in most of them myself but I also don't not believe in them if that makes sense. Do you really think the "people at the top" or in power if you will (and that doesn't at all mean government), live in the same world you and I do?

I'm glad we're on the same page! You said it better than I did.

You do know that Canreef is now being monitored closely right? I did mention 'US' 'Conspiracy' 'Illuminati' & 'Free Mason' in the same thread!

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