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10-16-2009, 08:54 PM
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Well we could go on forever, I still obviously don't agree with all your points and you obviously don't agree on mine. We can always find something pick at and spin against one another so before this gets out of hand again I'm agreeing that closed loops are a good option if done correctly and the space is available. However I personally prefer the use of certain power heads for the reasons stated and not because of my lack of experience or knowledge of closed loops.
I would have been better to have this discussion with a broader audience, I find threads like this quickly die on this site and you end up in this exact position  Not that this would particularly prove anything but I think it would be interesting to setup a poll or two to see what other hobbyists find and believe works before for water flow. 
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10-16-2009, 09:07 PM
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I find that these threads get a good audience. There are over 1200 views thus far, which isn't bad for a new thread with no answers, pictures or swearing.
I fully agree that powerheads are a sound choice for some people. It was never a matter of one being wrong and one being right, but one of which one is right for whom. Unfortunately we don't have much science to help the situation. We have a Dana Riddle article that gives ratings for Vortech pumps but without flow ratings for external closed loop pumps we are still comparing apples to oranges. I'm sure a poll would determine that powerheads are more popular, but as you mentioned it doesn't prove anything. I guess I have to go back to work then  Last edited by mr.wilson; 10-16-2009 at 09:09 PM.
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10-16-2009, 09:28 PM
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Yes lots of viewers but few writers. What I meant to say was these threads often die because it comes down to a couple people saying the same thing over and over again and it would be better if more people would pipe in with their opinions and experience. Group thinking and discussions are always better in my mind and the more people in the group the better. It's like classic statistics, if you have a jar of gum balls and have to guess how many is in the jar stats proves that the average number of a large group of people will be always be closer than one individual guess. Of course luck isn't considered in stats
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10-16-2009, 09:40 PM
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speaking of work I should really get back to it as well, this is what my desk currently looks like  Cleaned it last week   
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10-16-2009, 10:13 PM
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Can I be honest?
I believe the thread got a lot of views simply because there may have been a hint of tension. As for thoughtful discussion on what might be the better option. The decision to use one method over the other is primarily based on personal preference. If you asked most people, what they have in place in their own tanks is the stance they would take. They chose their method of water movement for reasons known only to them. I would be willing to bet most people didn't choose via published stats.. IE: Laminar Flow and watts/gph but rather what they could afford at the time or how they wanted the tank to look. These are my thoughts only.. I'm probably the dumbest person in this thread!
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