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[wickedfrags]

Pleased to hear you are considering another purchase - last time you posted you indicated you would never be buying from me again and sold your credit. Glad things can change!

I can verify my pink lemonade is in fact my pink lemonade if that's what you mean...and I can show you a picture of the colony it will be coming from. I generaly just make up the names for ordering purposes (such as the lariat zoa - named after the truck I just bought), or if it is visually simalar to other popular corals.

Also - the frag may be a little on the larger side, my colony is getting quite large now. I can prepare the frag for you and mount it however you like - give it a 5-8 days and it should be encrusted on whatever substrate you prefer, liverock or a aragonite disk. I don't keep frags of this ready for shipment - I really do not like fragging this coral.

Again, sorry about that last frag, I ended up losing the entire colony. Make things worse, it was one of the wife's favorite.

Originally Posted by Borderjumper

Yes Dave, I have been thinking about purchasing one of your Pink Lemonade acro frags, but at $110 for a "small" frag I really would like some verification it is in fact a Pink Lemonade acro? I see that you have listed yourself as the farmer of this coral?

Also is this a freshly cut frag or encrusted? I want to stay away from freshly cut and shipped frags this time. Lat time according to you my WYSIWYG frag must have died. before shipping. so you cut a fresh one and shipped it to me .. and it arrived as nothing more than a bare rock.

[wickedfrags]

You and me both - lots of rules in government (I work in healthcare),

Originally Posted by Reefer Rob

LOL! Bending rules in my business is nearly impossible anyway, the government is so far up my a$$ it hurts to bend over... still, if it's a senseless rule

There's so many regulations (and a government bureaucracy to go with each one!) I probably break a few every day and don't even know it.

Gotta go... so many rules, so little time.

As noted above, my suppliers are the Local Fish Stores here in Toronto. I have in fact asked for copies of CITES to investigate the possibility of re-exporting frags to the US -ya it did not go over well as the CITES contains the suppier name...and the local stored here are kinda protective of that as you may be able to appreciate! (only as good as your sullier here in Toronto)

Hope this adequately answers your question. Dave

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Could you kindly ask your supplier to forward you a copy of his/her CITES for me? You could PM or fax me a copy.

Thanks and looking forward to it as I would like to spend quite a considerable amount of money with you just as long as you can show me documented proof that you or your supplier brought it in legally.

Thanks for your time.

[Gooly001]

Originally Posted by wickedfrags.com

You and me both - lots of rules in government (I work in healthcare),



As noted above, my suppliers are the Local Fish Stores here in Toronto. I have in fact asked for copies of CITES to investigate the possibility of re-exporting frags to the US -ya it did not go over well as the CITES contains the suppier name...and the local stored here are kinda protective of that as you may be able to appreciate! (only as good as your sullier here in Toronto)

Hope this adequately answers your question. Dave

Well....I'm sure that for any potential business from me, you could somehow persuade your LFS to relinquiesh the CITES for me to veryify...otherwise how would I know? I am just basing my purchase on your honesty that the corals were imported legally.

Could I call DFO to visit your LFS so that they can verify the CITES authenticity before I make a purchase?

Could you kindly ask your LFS if this would be a possibility?

Thanks.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Well....I'm sure that for any potential business from me, you could somehow persuade your LFS to relinquiesh the CITES for me to veryify...otherwise how would I know? I am just basing my purchase on your honesty that the corals were imported legally.

Could I call DFO to visit your LFS so that they can verify the CITES authenticity before I make a purchase?

Could you kindly ask your LFS if this would be a possibility?

Thanks.

RAD, I believe your sole intent here is to cause trouble. Please refrain from this activity. The vendor is not responsible for showing you anything. It is an unreasonable request, no LFS would oblige to this type of request.

[wickedfrags]

how much are you looking to spend?

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Well....I'm sure that for any potential business from me, you could somehow persuade your LFS to relinquiesh the CITES for me to veryify...otherwise how would I know? I am just basing my purchase on your honesty that the corals were imported legally.

Could I call DFO to visit your LFS so that they can verify the CITES authenticity before I make a purchase?

Could you kindly ask your LFS if this would be a possibility?

Thanks.

[Quinster]

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Well....I'm sure that for any potential business from me, you could somehow persuade your LFS to relinquiesh the CITES for me to veryify...otherwise how would I know? I am just basing my purchase on your honesty that the corals were imported legally.

Could I call DFO to visit your LFS so that they can verify the CITES authenticity before I make a purchase?

Could you kindly ask your LFS if this would be a possibility?

Thanks.

Do you do this with all the other stores you purchase items from that look exotic or may be labeled as something it is not? When your buddy/neighbor "John Doe" frags his nice new exotic coral for you, do you ask him for proof of cities import?

I don't see many stores that import their own corals, let alone someone who frags their personal stock for resale accomidating you with this information.

How would you verify the coral in question is the actual one listed on the cities provided?

**EDIT: I see this was touched upon while I was taking my sweet time posting.**

[Gooly001]

Exactly my point....why can't I ask one vendor for verification and not another?

I am not trying to cause trouble...actually what I'm trying to do is prove a point that this thread is useless.

Asking a LFS to provide documentation to prove thier legitimacy is assinine. LFS protect their suppliers and will not readily provide such documentation.

So if Dave can ask another competitor for documents to verify the legalities why can't I ask the same of Dave?

Thanks.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Exactly my point....why can't I ask one vendor for verification and not another?

I am not trying to cause trouble...actually what I'm trying to do is prove a point that this thread is useless.

Asking a LFS to provide documentation to prove thier legitimacy is assinine. LFS protect their suppliers and will not readily provide such documentation.

So if Dave can ask another competitor for documents to verify the legalities why can't I ask the same of Dave?

Thanks.

I've just seen the notes where Dave is asking the same thing, so fair enough.

[wickedfrags]

Why don't you tell everyone your name and who you are representing???

You think you can hide anonymously behind a userID?

Originally Posted by R.A.D.

Exactly my point....why can't I ask one vendor for verification and not another?

I am not trying to cause trouble...actually what I'm trying to do is prove a point that this thread is useless.

Asking a LFS to provide documentation to prove thier legitimacy is assinine. LFS protect their suppliers and will not readily provide such documentation.

So if Dave can ask another competitor for documents to verify the legalities why can't I ask the same of Dave?

Thanks.

[Aquattro]

Dave, Ian, Paul. This is not going to be allowed to continue.

Dave, this is not the intent of vendor forums, and is not considered part of normal business activities.
I'm going to ask that this is closed and dropped. There will be no productive result from continuing this thread.