Awsome T5 Pendants By Fauna Marin

[Canadian]

Originally Posted by Aqua-Digital

Very interesting, just been on RG web site and they have removed ATI from the site.

Wander why

I can not find anywhere in the whole of North America selling this fixture.

So back to the Great new fauna fixture then

Canadian also brings up a valid point here that is a direct benefit to all Canada consumers. The Fauna products are purchased in Euro's converted into CAD and as such not effected by the inflated USD, so you really will pay less than you would for any comparible unit coming out the States for sure, including no import Tax or crazy shipping prices

The biggest benefit for the canadian consumer is stability in retail price. We are getting more an more enquires from new European manufacturers seeking a canada based distributor exactly for this reason.

I don't know what you're seeing when you go on reefgeek.com but unless I have a cached version of the site in my browser the ATI Powermodule is still on reefgeek.com for sale. If it's not showing up when you go to the site either my browser is keeping a copy of the site in my temporary files despite me deleting all my cookies and temporary files or you're not following the "T5 Fluorescent" link and only looking at the home page.

If Greg has discontinued selling the ATI lights (which at this point I don't see any evidence of) I would guess after speaking with Greg a couple weeks ago that it would be due to protracted wait times causing a considerable loss of sales. Additionally, and you and Fauna Marin might not be aware of this, Greg is now building his own dimmable T5 lights which are reported to possibly be ready for early 2009. So there will be another new kid on the block at about the same time that Fauna Marin comes out with their offering. And that new offering will also be dimmable with what have been reported to be some of the best reflectors available (and they'll be made in the USA).

[Aqua-Digital]

Nope looked on two pc's definately not there which sort of confirms my research

Yes i saw the module they have built and dimmable, but working on Dali, which will only work on their controller. The Fauna Light with its dimmable option will naturally work on the GHL as being the most likely partner with its advanced lighting control that no other controller comes close to matching, so much so aquarium illuminaton chose the GHL as its main stay LED light controller. But also the Fuana system will work on other types of systems as well.

There will be an option to purchase the GHL Light II controller with interface with the dimming light units for those who dont have a GHL at a special reduced price, this will give you full light control and climate moon pahsing aswell as temp control and Tunze stream control as well So we are working on some very advanced lighting packages for everyone.

Now you did not think we would get left behind did you

How the fauna Dimmables work will not be released right now due to competition, but we hope to have the first batches early next year

Following on from that later next year will also be Dali BUT only once the technology has settled down and of course GHL have intergrated the control with the ProfiLux (possibly with the awaited Profilux III)

The other issue I see, again is price, North American fixtures for the Canadian market will hold a 20% uplift premium due to exchange rate as mentioned in my previous post.

I have not researched more on the RG unit but from the photos it looks more like retofit than pendant, but could be wrong.

I think next year will see some great lighting options for everyone to choose from, you just need to decide, do you want USA technology (usually with European parts anyway) or European technology throughout. Thats not for us to decide, only you the buying public

[Aqua-Digital]

Some more info for you

Light switching - one powerline from Fixtures to a control unit at the moment is planned that you can control every pair.

Sizes are planned to be -
24 Watt = 650 mm
39 Watt = 950 mm
54 Watt = 1250 mm
80 Watt = 1550 mm

Standard - width with 6 tube units will be 395mm then add a further 100mm per extra tube.

We have chosen as retail standard the following

24w = 6 tube
39w = 8 tube
54w = 10 tube
80w = 10 tube

Anyone wanting different than the retail standard is no trouble but falls into custom order with approx 6 week delivery

Supply - earliest supply from Fauna can be the first week in January. I think but more around the 15th January due to holiday times. Please allow sea Freight shipping time to get to retailers.

Dimming - This will follow on in second wave of production

[Powertec]

Most ballasts can fire more than 2 lamps at a time.
If you are paying 75 for ballasts find a new manufacturer.
Considering most ballasts come from only three different suppliers in the world a compariable replacement is easy. Advance, workhorse ballasts for example come from GE manufacturing faciltiy

[Aqua-Digital]

You will not find dimmable ballasts that fire more than 2

And we are supplied with Advance and Sylvania at present and trust me the price of $75 is far less than we actually are quoted.

NON dimmable are cheaper of course, but still does not equate to building a "quality lamp fixture" for less than $500

Anyways, trying to keep this thread on track about the new fixture, if you have any questions directly about this great new fixture please post here If anyone wants to debate fixtures in general please start a thread on the open forum. I will happily chip in

Back to the topic, I will have prices this week guys and many thanks for the growing list of pre orders being emailed to me.

[Powertec]

It is possible to have a dimmable ballast fire more than two lamps.

[Aqua-Digital]

Ok I refraze - maybe possible but NOT designed to.

Talk to both Advance and Sylvania about this, I have and the above is the answer I got. if it was possible we would be using this method as it saves cost and lowers heat, it does not make economic sense to not do something if feasible.

There are reasons why manufacturers advise otherise and when building a quality product it is ill advised to go against what they state.

[Powertec]

I am looking at advances electrical engineering 2009 right now and they are miss quoting you.

Just saying what our engineering book says.

[Powertec]

Just trying to say you might want to check into other manufacturers for cheaper, but just as good tolerances if not better.

Advance is far from the best manufacturer.

[Aqua-Digital]

Not quite sure why the head of technical in would miss quote but makes no odds really, the fauna lamp will run with 2 tubes on one ballast as this also ties in with the other electonics that are incorporated.

We have checked with other manufacturers also, the ballast to be used is NOT Advance

Hope that helps