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Old 10-09-2008, 11:58 PM
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I know Michael,

I have 2 goals in life get my girlfreind's best friend to clean my bathroom. And get some kind of freebie out of you.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:01 AM
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I just sent you a couple of 10grams of free fauna food in a stash bag didnt I

What more could you ask for, free smellies in the post for your fish to enjoy and worry the hell out of the postman why his mail bag now smells of high grade fish oils
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Old 10-10-2008, 03:06 AM
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I just started using Zeovit on 120G and like the progress so far. Thanks for the cost calulations of the 2 bio media.
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Old 10-10-2008, 04:44 AM
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I just started using Zeovit on 120G and like the progress so far. Thanks for the cost calulations of the 2 bio media.
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Old 10-10-2008, 05:53 AM
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why do people pay so much for vinegar and bacteria?and why add 1 drop of Zeobak when theres already supposed to be a bazillion bacterias living.
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Old 10-10-2008, 06:22 AM
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why do people pay so much for vinegar and bacteria?and why add 1 drop of Zeobak when theres already supposed to be a bazillion bacterias living.
Mostly cause they want nicer tanks =)

The issue has been addressed and validated since many moons ago. Bacterial driven systems, as in those which extend beyond Nitrosomonas and Nitrobacter, have long achieved standing as legitimate, highly successful methods of recreating super low nutrient environments not possible through other means.

VSV methods have achieved results, but many would rather opt for the convenience and peace of mind that comes with a retail product. Metaphorically, you could liken it to eating out instead of cooking at home... Or something like that, haw haw.
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:37 AM
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Hi Guys

If i read this this postings my meaning is that a some people have big issues that we have success on the market and started to create a war of words against FM stuff.

Iám not here to discuss which company is better or not. We have our
ideas create our own products and on many parts of reef keeping we are leaders in developtment like food for Azoo corals , Fish and special corals
We also create a slight different system to a well know competitor but we did not only make a ULNS System.
The most of our costumers changed to our system and did not make a lot of words on it they only use it the most with success others not.
Like in every system

It is not difficult for me to create a extrem products to increase fast and extrem corals i only need to put some metals like copper in my products like other do and in 2 days you corals glow and your algeas gone.
Everyone looks only on some pictures and think all will gone easy but nobody talks on hundreds chrashed tanks.

Do not missunderstood me i like what my competitor do without competitiors no better ideas and no changing and that is important for the success that we all want to have.
We go a little bit different way like the others do and that all
Even like some friends of each system means to do a good work if they make the other company bad.
I dont think so !!!!

As i said a long time before
Reefkeeping is like cooking you can have the best foods , the best kitchen, the best manuals ,but without feeling no meal will be good

My company is younger then others on the market but the most of you uses products which i developed severals years ago for other brands during my time when i work in other companys. so i know what i produced and how i test the products.
Other company are much longer on the market and had more time for service , Forums, dealers and others so give me a chance and did not think i had to do all in a few weeks where others needs 6 and more years.!!!


@ Powertec
I have no idea which is your name so if you send me an PM i can see and have a change to react on your questions but without name no way for me


For any others
write me an mail and i will help asap i can
greets claude
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The issue has been addressed and validated since many moons ago. Bacterial driven systems, as in those which extend beyond Nitrosomonas and Nitrobacter, have long achieved standing as legitimate, highly successful methods of recreating super low nutrient environments not possible through other means.
I am not sure what you are saying here, is it that using this additives (which ever flavor you want) is the only way to achieve a low nutrient system? or that by using these systems it is proven to have long term success?

from what I have been seeing and reading neither statement is accurate unless your a sales man trying to sell products.

1) there are plenty of ways to create nutrient free systems with basic equipment and no additives, and they have had amazing and long term success and are easy to do.

2) show me a long term success with Zeo or what ever? its only been here for a couple years how can you call that long term? and I don't care what there doing in Germany or Japan, as I have said before I am German, and have been there several times... So is VW and that doesn't spell quality either. German stuff is the same as Canadian stuff, some good, some crap and a bit awesome. how about some long term success tanks right here in Canada that is all because of Zeo or what ever?

I don't know why I read these sometimes, but I get so &*^% off at the "you can't have a nice tank with out using" sales pitches that are blatant lies because you can have just as nice of a tank with less work.


Ok I will stop my rant over and Merry Christmas to all. got to go play santa now

Steve
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