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10-10-2008, 02:06 AM
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I just started using Zeovit on 120G and like the progress so far. Thanks for the cost calulations of the 2 bio media.
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10-10-2008, 03:44 AM
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10-10-2008, 05:22 AM
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The issue has been addressed and validated since many moons ago. Bacterial driven systems, as in those which extend beyond Nitrosomonas and Nitrobacter, have long achieved standing as legitimate, highly successful methods of recreating super low nutrient environments not possible through other means. VSV methods have achieved results, but many would rather opt for the convenience and peace of mind that comes with a retail product. Metaphorically, you could liken it to eating out instead of cooking at home... Or something like that, haw haw.
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10-10-2008, 07:37 AM
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If i read this this postings my meaning is that a some people have big issues that we have success on the market and started to create a war of words against FM stuff. Iám not here to discuss which company is better or not. We have our ideas create our own products and on many parts of reef keeping we are leaders in developtment like food for Azoo corals , Fish and special corals We also create a slight different system to a well know competitor but we did not only make a ULNS System. The most of our costumers changed to our system and did not make a lot of words on it they only use it the most with success others not. Like in every system It is not difficult for me to create a extrem products to increase fast and extrem corals i only need to put some metals like copper in my products like other do and in 2 days you corals glow and your algeas gone. Everyone looks only on some pictures and think all will gone easy but nobody talks on hundreds chrashed tanks. Do not missunderstood me i like what my competitor do without competitiors no better ideas and no changing and that is important for the success that we all want to have. We go a little bit different way like the others do and that all Even like some friends of each system means to do a good work if they make the other company bad. I dont think so !!!! As i said a long time before Reefkeeping is like cooking you can have the best foods , the best kitchen, the best manuals ,but without feeling no meal will be good My company is younger then others on the market but the most of you uses products which i developed severals years ago for other brands during my time when i work in other companys. so i know what i produced and how i test the products. Other company are much longer on the market and had more time for service , Forums, dealers and others so give me a chance and did not think i had to do all in a few weeks where others needs 6 and more years.!!! @ Powertec I have no idea which is your name so if you send me an PM i can see and have a change to react on your questions but without name no way for me For any others write me an mail and i will help asap i can greets claude
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10-10-2008, 02:55 PM
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By default, you've just made harsh, unsubstantiated accusations against Korallen Zucht.
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10-10-2008, 03:09 PM
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Do not missunderstood me i like what my competitor do !
That is my real meaning so you missunderstood me . sorry for that my english is not as well to write it on that way that all can understand correctly how i mean it greets claude
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10-10-2008, 03:09 PM
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Claude is merely defending his company from comments within this thread which he is entitled to do, espcially under the pressure that is clearly being waged on the new kid on the block. This actually gives me great relief as the FM product is being taken very seriously.
No I dont expect stacks of people to come on here and rave about the FM system as it is relatively new, but given time as the user base spreads which it is very fast now with Claudes and my own user support, then in 6 months the debate will become more balanced, but even then as a company both FM and myself will never say one is better than the other, different maybe, but not better. Each has its own merits dependant on what the user wishes to acheive. So lets get on track and discuss the merits of both systems and please everyone drop all this "my system is better than your system" talk. Constructive positive PLEASE. Nothing is ever gained from negative marketing, ever. Last edited by Aqua-Digital; 10-10-2008 at 03:14 PM.
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from what I have been seeing and reading neither statement is accurate unless your a sales man trying to sell products. 1) there are plenty of ways to create nutrient free systems with basic equipment and no additives, and they have had amazing and long term success and are easy to do. 2) show me a long term success with Zeo or what ever? its only been here for a couple years how can you call that long term? and I don't care what there doing in Germany or Japan, as I have said before I am German, and have been there several times... So is VW and that doesn't spell quality either. German stuff is the same as Canadian stuff, some good, some crap and a bit awesome. how about some long term success tanks right here in Canada that is all because of Zeo or what ever? I don't know why I read these sometimes, but I get so &*^% off at the "you can't have a nice tank with out using" sales pitches that are blatant lies because you can have just as nice of a tank with less work. Ok I will stop my rant over and Merry Christmas to all. got to go play santa now  Steve
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Zeo, VSV, Prodibio, etc have a limited pool of selection here in Canada because of the relatively high learning curve and formerly high costs associated with them. This is changing and, just like in the States (namely Cali), I expect to see a very pronouced movement towards this type of methodology. I'm including the use of VSV (vinegar, sugar, vodka) under this claim since the fundamentals are the same. But I digress. For Canadians, check out Snappy's tank. Greg (correct me if I'm wrong man) has been a longtime user of Reefresh, a probiotic system developed by Polylabs. I, along with a great deal many others, have had the pleasure of seeing his system firsthand. It is worthy of every bit of praise and attention it receives worldwide. Quote:
If you are uncomfortable with people saying that there are different ways of doing things, that's fine. But expect that people are going to start treating your opinions as absent rheotorical, just as you seem to have made up your mind about my opinions. Quote:
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