The dearth of spirited discussion

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by jorjef

Brad if you're not coming back after Chistmas I'm done....Ban me for the third and final time.

Maybe for Xmas, ok? lol

[Reef Pilot]

Well, I could talk more about why canreef might be declining, but my knuckles are getting sore from being rapped so much. And oh, this was supposed to be a topic about spirited discussions...

I will still say though, that it is the experienced hobbyists that make this forum great. I myself was very inspired with some of the tanks and pics I have seen here. Talk and opinion is sometimes interesting (incl the drama), but what really means the most to me is demonstrated success with journals and pics.

Science is great, but as others have said, it can be lost in the interpretation and may not always be applicable, or practical, and feasible to the regular hobbyist. And even right here on this forum, have seen some abominable examples of so called scientists (or students in the field) that have totally messed up their tanks with misguided applications of their theoretical assumptions.

So, for me proven success is what matters most. And sure would hate to see those people leave the forum.

[Ram3500]

I think Canreef was the most exciting when the buy and sell popped up in Active Threads.It made for a very active page. I felt that I always had to be checking back to in fear of missing some great deal.
I understand that the vendors maybe didn't like this in fear that they were losing out on business but they are wrong. A more active fourm will only draw more clicks in the Vendor Forums driving customer to there web pages. More users on canreef = more $ in the vendors pockets.

[Skimmer Juice]

I assumed the boards were slow due to the time of year but also think the boards slowed down when the buy/sell rules changed. I know of a couple members that quit coming on here at that point . Also been reading about people leaving the hobby/not enjoying it anymore quit a bit. To be honest this is my main forum I go to reef central once in a while to read through the shallow tank club thread and the pipefish/seahorse thread as there is not much pipefish activity on here . Discussion can get burned out when there is limited activity IMO I'm sure it will pick up . Also agree that topics have reached a point where a lot of info can be found by googling , when I started the info was not out there like it is now . To be honest even though the questions may get repetitive it's still better to ask in a thread as you may find out something you were not directly looking for . Im just glad after 11 years in the hobby Im still excited as ever with the hobby , really hope that the day where the hobby does not interest me at all never comes .

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Ram3500

I think Canreef was the most exciting when the buy and sell popped up in Active Threads.It made for a very active page. I felt that I always had to be checking back to in fear of missing some great deal.
I understand that the vendors maybe didn't like this in fear that they were losing out on business but they are wrong. A more active fourm will only draw more clicks in the Vendor Forums driving customer to there web pages. More users on canreef = more $ in the vendors pockets.

All I get in new posts in buy/sell. Not sure what you mean about active posts?

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

All I get in new posts in buy/sell. Not sure what you mean about active posts?

Oh, I see what you might be doing. I simply navigate the site by clicking new posts. It's all there.

[somafish]

Sounds like a lot of jaded folks on here! What could we do to make it more entertaining on the site, coral auctions? More vendor give aways? I thought it was pretty awesome when I had a chance to go to MACNA, actually I think Concept is the only vendor I have seen offer anything for free

[Ram3500]

When viewing the fourm on my iphone or ipad there is no new post tab available. I am sure I am not the only person on ios. I wonder how is appears
on android

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[sphelps]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

Oh, I see what you might be doing. I simply navigate the site by clicking new posts. It's all there.

It's not the same, it requires an extra click which sometimes isn't worth the extra effort.


I gave up reefing a while ago, maybe for good or maybe not. At any rate I stick around because I like the community and I myself owe a lot to it as I've grown a tremendous amount since I first joined being that I'm only a partial ignorant douche now. At any rate I can occasionally still offer good advice and enjoy a good build thread. That said I'm visiting less and less and I agree with what has already been said. To add to it, a lot of what feeds this forum are the build threads and the sense of importance each author achieves. Most threads these days are essentially a repeat with original builds being much harder to achieve, this drives down viewer interest and respective comments which drives interest down in general. Low comments = low updates = low bumps = low activity. This causes tank owners to use other sources to show off their work and get that attention they crave. This craving for importance is what drives a lot people after all and it is what fuels social media, not just in this hobby but most aspects of life. As said time is a changing, move on or be left behind.

[Scythanith]

Originally Posted by sphelps

It's not the same, it requires an extra click which sometimes isn't worth the extra effort.


I gave up reefing a while ago, maybe for good or maybe not. At any rate I stick around because I like the community and I myself owe a lot to it as I've grown a tremendous amount since I first joined being that I'm only a partial ignorant douche now. At any rate I can occasionally still offer good advice and enjoy a good build thread. That said I'm visiting less and less and I agree with what has already been said. To add to it, a lot of what feeds this forum are the build threads and the sense of importance each author achieves. Most threads these days are essentially a repeat with original builds being much harder to achieve, this drives down viewer interest and respective comments which drives interest down in general. Low comments = low updates = low bumps = low activity. This causes tank owners to use other sources to show off their work and get that attention they crave. This craving for importance is what drives a lot people after all and it is what fuels social media, not just in this hobby but most aspects of life. As said time is a changing, move on or be left behind.

I think that pretty much hit the nail on the head.

I just wanted to talk about lights....