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Old 01-13-2014, 08:39 PM
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I take it they recommend this with there balling salts, any idea on pricing ball park ish

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Old 01-13-2014, 08:43 PM
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around $129 to $139 depending on location due to shipping costs for dealers. Thats for the Bio Actif.

The Pro reef is between $99- $109

YES it is higher priced than your average salt but again you get what you pay for (the RB review gives a good insight into this)

Yes this salt is designed to run with the balling system as it mirrors what the system puts in so you should not get spikes in your ranges.

It does not replace the balling system as said before when doing a water change you only replace that percentage of depleted elements.
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Old 01-13-2014, 08:58 PM
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For those that don't like clicking on links Here is RB's excellent part of the review that explains the difference from other salts

Tropic Marin did something completely different when it launched their Bio Actif system, and more specifically when they launched their new salt. They added something that is usually left out in most salt. Organic Compounds. A book by Sorokin on Coral Reef Ecology states on page 66 that content of reef water in organic C is around 1 to 3 ppm. If the natural reefs of the world have a range of organics why wouldn’t we put them in our man-made glass reef houses?

Chemist and Guru Hans-Werner is the man behind the salt. He works for Tropic Marin and was able to sit down and help us explain why this salt differs from other salts. He tells us that organic substances are an important component of natural seawater, especially over reefs, a saltwater within these organic substances should be closer to natural conditions than a saltwater without organics. Organic substances can alter the solubility and bioavailability of trace elements and can even achieve a codegradation of refractive organic substances like yellow substances and organic toxins.

Organic compounds that you might be familiar with could include Vodka, vinegar, sugar or vitamin C. We don’t know what specific organic compound is being added to the Bio Actif salt, but we would assume its one of the above. The salt creates more hydrophobic compounds and bacteria then traditional salts which increases the load of your protein skimmer. You shouldn’t be using this salt without a decent protein skimmer. The reaction to the skimmer was so impressive in fact its like pouring Sodium lauryl sulfate into running tap water. Not to that extent but hopefully you’ve gotten the point. Run a good protein skimmer

Mixing the salt to its recommended dosage yield the following results when testing the water:
Calcium CA 442 PPM
Magnesium 1348 PPM
8 KH
PH 8.36

Also a quick note: The salt dissolves fast with no residual aftereffects common in some salts.
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Seems like a very interesting product with a unique spin.

So lets get to the fun question, in your opinion why should I decide to pay more than double the cost of my current salt for this product?

You have detailed that the product contains:

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Tropic Marin did something completely different when it launched their Bio Actif system, and more specifically when they launched their new salt. They added something that is usually left out in most salt. Organic Compounds. A book by Sorokin on Coral Reef Ecology states on page 66 that content of reef water in organic C is around 1 to 3 ppm. If the natural reefs of the world have a range of organics why wouldn’t we put them in our man-made glass reef houses?
I understand this has been shipped across the world to get to us so yes, the price will be more expensive. Really though, am I actually paying double to get 1-3 ppm of organic carbon? There has to be more to this, does this salt also bring me beer and provide moral support while I do my water change?
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:11 AM
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So I am assuming you wouldn't want to be running or trying to run a ulns with this salt. So do the tropic marin balling salts contain these organics found in the salt ?
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