AEFW Warning for Lower Mainland area!!!

reefermadness · #1 06-20-2013, 01:29 PM

Red bugs is one thing Brad (easily removed with a safe in tank treatment, also redbugs rarely if ever has been responsible for the loss of an acro). AEFW is a whole other ball game.

Also any seller who knows he has either pest should at the very least inform the potential buyers. Otherwise you arent being honest. JMO

Aquattro · #2 06-20-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by reefermadness

Also any seller who knows he has either pest should at the very least inform the potential buyers. Otherwise you arent being honest. JMO

Oh, absolutely. I didn't mean to imply otherwise, and if we see that, the poster is gone. My point is only that one should assume that all frags are infected and treat, inspect and deal with accordingly. If I get a frag that has AEFW and I can't remove them, it goes in the garbage. I'm lucky that I have a scope and can check, but I think you can probably see them with a magnifying glass. Just saying always check.

reefermadness · #3 06-20-2013, 02:11 PM

I agree Brad, you can't assume that everyone is honest or even that everyone with a pest even knows that they have it.

It just seemed like the attitude was a shady seller was getting a pass and all the emphasis put on the buyer. The buyer needs to be diligent for sure but we should also encourage good honest selling IMO.

Aquattro · #4 06-20-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by reefermadness

I agree Brad, you can't assume that everyone is honest or even that everyone with a pest even knows that they have it.

It just seemed like the attitude was a shady seller was getting a pass and all the emphasis put on the buyer. The buyer needs to be diligent for sure but we should also encourage good honest selling IMO.

I did speak to the seller, who said he did not know, and that he felt really bad and withdrew the items for sale. Without knowing otherwise, we have to assume that's reasonably true, and it just bothers me to see a post attacking someone when we don't have all the facts. No mention of whether anyone that bought frags contacted him for a refund or resolution, outcome of that contact if it happened, etc. It was just a lynch mob post, and I think the seller has to be assumed innocent until proven otherwise. I've bought frags from several top members here that had pests of some sort, and imagine if I posted something like this as a first response. It would ruin the reputation of the member, it would cause a thread much like this and at the end of the day, nothing good would have come from it. I would have also lost friends in the process.
If situations like this occur, it's best to contact the staff to discuss, and if we see it as a benefit to the board, we'll contact the seller and post a PSA if needed. Assembling a mob and fetching a rope is not the best approach to this type of issue

reefermadness · #5 06-20-2013, 03:02 PM

So diplomatic Brad..hah Again I agree. I was speaking in generalities and not about this specific seller. I was just reading the post and forgot it was about one seller in particular.

Kudos to anyone who admits they have a pest and puts a stop to selling.

Also fair to point out like Brad mentioned not all accusations are going to be correct so we can't assume someone is guilty.

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Originally Posted by Aquattro

I did speak to the seller, who said he did not know, and that he felt really bad and withdrew the items for sale. Without knowing otherwise, we have to assume that's reasonably true, and it just bothers me to see a post attacking someone when we don't have all the facts. No mention of whether anyone that bought frags contacted him for a refund or resolution, outcome of that contact if it happened, etc. It was just a lynch mob post, and I think the seller has to be assumed innocent until proven otherwise. I've bought frags from several top members here that had pests of some sort, and imagine if I posted something like this as a first response. It would ruin the reputation of the member, it would cause a thread much like this and at the end of the day, nothing good would have come from it. I would have also lost friends in the process.
If situations like this occur, it's best to contact the staff to discuss, and if we see it as a benefit to the board, we'll contact the seller and post a PSA if needed. Assembling a mob and fetching a rope is not the best approach to this type of issue

mikepclo · #6 06-20-2013, 04:36 PM

This is exactly how I felt after seeing another fellow members warning post on the sellers thread but was replied with same type of response from Brad. So this thread was made as I didn't feel confident anything was going to be done. If you guys feel like this is a lynch fest than so be it. I do apologize to members that I've offended in this thread but I still stand by my warning.

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Originally Posted by reefermadness

It just seemed like the attitude was a shady seller was getting a pass and all the emphasis put on the buyer. The buyer needs to be diligent for sure but we should also encourage good honest selling IMO.

Reef Pilot · #7 06-20-2013, 04:50 PM

What it comes down to is whether or not the seller knew his frags had AEFW when he was still posting them for sale on canreef. Was this after he went to the LFS? If so, then indeed he is getting a free pass.

It would be helpful (especially to the seller) if he could explain to us what happened and when. Mistakes do happen, but if not explained, people will assume the worst, you can bet on that.

mikepclo · #8 06-20-2013, 05:56 PM

From what I've been told it was before he posted on Canreef. And for sure we would like hear from the seller as he made no attempt to clear his name on this thread or his when warned about his frags had aefw.

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Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

What it comes down to is whether or not the seller knew his frags had AEFW when he was still posting them for sale on canreef. Was this after he went to the LFS? If so, then indeed he is getting a free pass.

It would be helpful (especially to the seller) if he could explain to us what happened and when. Mistakes do happen, but if not explained, people will assume the worst, you can bet on that.

Agreed! Thanks Brad

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I don't think you've offended anyone, and perhaps I could have stated my point in a better way. It is, of course, always our goal to help each other out, I'd just prefer to ramp up slowly to public blast.

Aquattro · #9 06-20-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mikepclo

This is exactly how I felt after seeing another fellow members warning post on the sellers thread but was replied with same type of response from Brad. So this thread was made as I didn't feel confident anything was going to be done. If you guys feel like this is a lynch fest than so be it. I do apologize to members that I've offended in this thread but I still stand by my warning.

I don't think you've offended anyone, and perhaps I could have stated my point in a better way. It is, of course, always our goal to help each other out, I'd just prefer to ramp up slowly to public blast.

jorjef · #10 06-20-2013, 05:46 PM

Who thinks they can do a better job than Brad??? I don't see anyone raising their hand... What a god awful position to be in.. Sheriff, mediator, judge and jury, giver of hugs when someones feeling have been hurt. He did ban me once so hey gotta give him credit for that!! Lock this redundant collection of opinions and lets move on...