AEFW Warning for Lower Mainland area!!!

[albert_dao]

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AEFW don't just lay eggs on the base/dead skeletal tissue of the corals. Occasionally, you can find egg clusters on fleshy/branching tissue as long as it is well away from a polyp. I've confirmed this with a magnifying glass. Now what are my options?

I find it difficult to comprehend that I am of the 1% 'sorry for your bad luck' bracket of experienced reefers (three times over, notwithstanding). But here's the deal, I get to talk to dealers all the time and their sentiments and experiences echo mine.

A dip and clip is not a 99-100% surefire means of preventing AEFW. You know what is? NOT PUTTING THE FRAG IN YOUR SYSTEM.

x 10,000

[albert_dao]

In any case, let's play devil's advocate for a moment here:

Let's say someone bought the frag unknowingly, but lending their trust to the seller. What if they simply assumed, given the value and visible condition of the frags, that the seller had clean corals.

Buyer: Canreef, help, my acros are dying. I found these little clear dudes on it. They look like this [pic]. What do I do?

Canreef: Those are AEFW's. They will eat your acros.

Buyer: Oh noes! How do I get rid of thems?

Canreef: You're F---'d. Tough love son. Your fault for not dipping, noob.

Seems legit.

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by Bblinks

Nah, its fine Walter, I have personally used it on even the most sensitive sps frags without any problems. Follow directions though...don't leave it in there for too long.

OK, thanks, good to know.

This AEFW talk has me more thng a little spooked. It took me a long time to get my tank to a condition that I can now finally grow SPS. Sure would hate to have all that ruined. I haven't QT'd my new corals yet (just dipped), but maybe I need to start.

[canadianbudz604]

I would be pretty ****ed if I bought 2 frags for 250$ and not only did they die, but the aefw spread and kill the rest of my acros too. But I learned my lesson the hard way About adding corals and not dipping. 5 weeks of constant dipping washing and pulling my hair out made me never stick a coral in my tank again without treating or dipping first. Sometimes it's good to get a warning.

[ScubaSteve]

Originally Posted by mikepclo

First of all I did not say it was JL, dunno what you read and it wasnt btw.I trust my sources which are well known and respectable members here and that's why I THOUGHT WAS GOOD IDEA IF MEMBERS KNEW. And this isnt about me so dunno why you are bringing me into this like I'm craving attention or drama, which is rude btw. I think your missing the point here, it's a warning and if it prevented anyone from buying than I did get the result I wanted. And why do I need sympathy???for???? I'm confused here.

Since you dont like pages causing hackling than what do you expect to get out of your comments?I'm confused again...no joke here.

Oh I don't keep quit btw, I fight hard for what I believe is right.

Hey, let's bring it down a notch. I'm not trying to pick a fight or **** you off, nor was I trying to be offensive.

Sorry I was mistaken, I read LFS and brain went to JL for some reason. My bad. From reading it sounded as though you or a couple people ended up getting AEFW; if you did, I'm sorry and I feel for you. It sucks. If you didn't, my misunderstanding - it seemed like you had. I didn't say you were craving drama or attention.

After reading through the whole thread and seeing people get up in arms when Brad says "take responsibility for your own stuff" I thought it was getting kind of silly. I think I was responding more to:

"So selling dirty corals is ok on this forum? By your comments here and on other warning on the another thread that makes it seem like you don't find any immoral issues here. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what you come off ass. Oopps I mean "as"."

No one here was implying that. Brad, myself and others said the same thing, maybe too bluntly: ultimately you're responsible for your tank, and no, no one is supporting selling "dirty" frags.

I really do appreciate you posting a warning about a guy selling infected frags, especially if the guy was doing it maliciously. From what I was seeing it didn't necessarily seem like he was and it felt like the reaction was a bit over blown. That's why I said something. The other member was being publicly strung out like a leper. If he was being malicious, great burn him at the stake. Or, as Brad said, a simple note to the mods could have just as well been an effective first step to getting rid of that problem.

JL gets colonies in shipments that have AEFW and they try to deal with it the best they can (typically they just toss the colony), however, you can't catch them all. We don't go and cause a huge kerfuffle if one of their colonies has AEFW, right?

Far too often around here many threads just turn into ****ing matches and catfights. Does that really bring up the quality of this forum? My point was more to the point that people need to temper their responses. While your intentions were good, I saw this ending up as people all up in a tizzy and bitter because of the way it was being handled. It's the kind of stuff that drives membership away. People being publicly crucified for having a pest, accusations of having no morals and supporting selling of "dirty" frags... There are more constructive ways of dealing with problems than that. We can be better than that around here.

I'm sorry if you understood it as me point a finger at you or chastising you. It wasn't meant as such and I apologize if it came across that way. Like I said, I'm not involved in the issue, I don't know all the facts, I'm not taking any sides. Just like you, I believe in what I think is right. While I appreciate your good intentions, I didn't believe the responses I was seeing were the most appropriate.

[lastlight]

anyone here ever try bio-pellets?

i'm on the fence as i've heard both good and bad about them.

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by lastlight

anyone here ever try bio-pellets?

i'm on the fence as i've heard both good and bad about them.

Why you gotta faux-diffuse the situation? The lances were drawn and horses armored...

[mikepclo]

Like I said, this was just a friendly warning to members here. Take it for what it is.

Thank you!

Originally Posted by ScubaSteve

Hey, let's bring it down a notch. I'm not trying to pick a fight or **** you off, nor was I trying to be offensive.

Sorry I was mistaken, I read LFS and brain went to JL for some reason. My bad. From reading it sounded as though you or a couple people ended up getting AEFW; if you did, I'm sorry and I feel for you. It sucks. If you didn't, my misunderstanding - it seemed like you had. I didn't say you were craving drama or attention.

After reading through the whole thread and seeing people get up in arms when Brad says "take responsibility for your own stuff" I thought it was getting kind of silly. I think I was responding more to:

"So selling dirty corals is ok on this forum? By your comments here and on other warning on the another thread that makes it seem like you don't find any immoral issues here. Correct me if I'm wrong but that's what you come off ass. Oopps I mean "as"."

No one here was implying that. Brad, myself and others said the same thing, maybe too bluntly: ultimately you're responsible for your tank, and no, no one is supporting selling "dirty" frags.

I really do appreciate you posting a warning about a guy selling infected frags, especially if the guy was doing it maliciously. From what I was seeing it didn't necessarily seem like he was and it felt like the reaction was a bit over blown. That's why I said something. The other member was being publicly strung out like a leper. If he was being malicious, great burn him at the stake. Or, as Brad said, a simple note to the mods could have just as well been an effective first step to getting rid of that problem.

JL gets colonies in shipments that have AEFW and they try to deal with it the best they can (typically they just toss the colony), however, you can't catch them all. We don't go and cause a huge kerfuffle if one of their colonies has AEFW, right?

Far too often around here many threads just turn into ****ing matches and catfights. Does that really bring up the quality of this forum? My point was more to the point that people need to temper their responses. While your intentions were good, I saw this ending up as people all up in a tizzy and bitter because of the way it was being handled. It's the kind of stuff that drives membership away. People being publicly crucified for having a pest, accusations of having no morals and supporting selling of "dirty" frags... There are more constructive ways of dealing with problems than that. We can be better than that around here.

I'm sorry if you understood it as me point a finger at you or chastising you. It wasn't meant as such and I apologize if it came across that way. Like I said, I'm not involved in the issue, I don't know all the facts, I'm not taking any sides. Just like you, I believe in what I think is right. While I appreciate your good intentions, I didn't believe the responses I was seeing were the most appropriate.

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[jorjef]

I like Captain Crunch....

[jorjef]

What???... Nobody else likes Captain Crunch?