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Old 06-19-2013, 04:06 PM
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If the judge in the lawsuit finds them guilty of patent violation than buying their pumps is no different than buying equipment from someone who stole it from a warehouse.
What lawsuit. There is no lawsuit.
There was a letter. Thats all. As far as I know, thats where it sits today.
There is no infringment on patent, or this would have gone to court already.
Big dog barked. Thats it.
Buying from someone who stole it from a warehouse?? Please...
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:10 PM
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What lawsuit. There is no lawsuit.
There was a letter. Thats all. As far as I know, thats where it sits today.
There is no infringment on patent, or this would have gone to court already.
Big dog barked. Thats it.
Buying from someone who stole it from a warehouse?? Please...
I was under the impression there was a patent proceeding in progress. IF there's a patent infringement and they've stolen the design, it's theft; that doesn't seem complicated to me.

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Old 06-19-2013, 04:25 PM
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I was under the impression there was a patent proceeding in progress. IF there's a patent infringement and they've stolen the design, it's theft; that doesn't seem complicated to me.
No, there is no infringment. Do you honestly think tunze had the origional design? No, they modified a powerhead themselves, and have tried to stop other companies from using something similar.
Vortech on the other hand, there is a clear new design development.
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No, there is no infringment. Do you honestly think tunze had the origional design? No, they modified a powerhead themselves, and have tried to stop other companies from using something similar.
Vortech on the other hand, there is a clear new design development.
If Tunze has sent out a letter, they feel there's an infringement. I couldn't find anything other then talk about the letter, and I really should be working... but at a quick glance it does look like just a cease and desist letter right now. Sometimes that's the prelude to legal action, sometimes it ends with the letter.

Regardless, to me it looks like they've ripped off Tunze's innovation and design; as far as I know, it is Tunze's design. Show me where someone had a powerhead designed like that prior to Tunze and I'll happily eat my words.
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:46 PM
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If Tunze has sent out a letter, they feel there's an infringement. I couldn't find anything other then talk about the letter, and I really should be working... but at a quick glance it does look like just a cease and desist letter right now. Sometimes that's the prelude to legal action, sometimes it ends with the letter.

Regardless, to me it looks like they've ripped off Tunze's innovation and design; as far as I know, it is Tunze's design. Show me where someone had a powerhead designed like that prior to Tunze and I'll happily eat my words.
Big brands always send out letters whenever they sense any form of unavoidable competition
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Vortech on the other hand, there is a clear new design development.
What about WP-40 VS MP-40, I wonder if Ecotech is cooking something up?
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Old 06-19-2013, 04:49 PM
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What about WP-40 VS MP-40, I wonder if Ecotech is cooking something up?
There's no "proof" that jebao stole WP-40 from MP-40's naming style (although it' s obvious). A mere twist of naming should never be considered as "steeling". The vocabulary is limited but the imagination is not and that's where "coincidences" occur.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:08 PM
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There's no "proof" that jebao stole WP-40 from MP-40's naming style (although it' s obvious). A mere twist of naming should never be considered as "steeling". The vocabulary is limited but the imagination is not and that's where "coincidences" occur.
Maybe, just curious to see if they are cooking up something.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:13 PM
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Maybe, just curious to see if they are cooking up something.
I don't think they will do anything. Ecotech's market is much bigger than just their powerhead. Jebao has not put any sort of mark on their product in terms of anything. And I think ecotech have already responded to it to some extend, by reducing their price a bit. A much better move than tunzi issuing a letter
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