anybody using the jebao wp 40 or 25's

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Reef Supplies

On the topic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPzRPga6uDg

Sorry, couldn't resist.

I see no difference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw-zxJI1YOo

[Reef Supplies]

Originally Posted by mrhasan

I see no difference:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw-zxJI1YOo

Heh yeah I have seen worst unfortunately

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Reef Supplies

Heh yeah I have seen worst unfortunately

[Slick Fork]

Wow on both of those. Amazing that both these guys could be so careless out in the open where they know people are watching

[daniella3d]

your choice, go pay 3 times the price for something that's not even as good.

As for copy, you should stop bying kleenex, or always buy the kleenex brand because they all look pretty much the same to me, no matter the brand so some companies must have copied the original. Don't buy a refregirator either, or even a car. They all have 4 wheels, a body and en engine, so they were all copied on the first car ever made and invented.

The wp25 does look a bit like the Tunze but the ressemblance stop there...everything else is way better and have a much better design. I see it like this..if the Chineses can make such a good pump for so little, then why these companies did not make their pumps better then this?

Have you ever tried opening a tunze pump cover? Have you ever tried sliding the flow control gadget of the 6045 once it's been in the water for a few hours? VERY bad design! and why are they so weak that you must pay 200$ to have something strong enough for a 75 gallons? I think that many of these so called legit companies have been giving us too little for too much and if they did spent money on design, they could have produce a good design at least. I am talking about the tunze.

The wp25 is not an exact copy of the Tunze, it is way better. So suit yourself and buy the inferior product if you wish. I won't.

Originally Posted by Slick Fork

Where Chinese firms have made real innovation of their own and the quality seems ok, I don't mind buying. When it's just a cheap rip-off of someone elses hard work, I'll take the original.

Cheers,

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

your choice, go pay 3 times the price for something that's not even as good.

As for copy, you should stop bying kleenex, or always buy the kleenex brand because they all look pretty much the same to me, no matter the brand so some companies must have copied the original. Don't buy a refregirator either, or even a car. They all have 4 wheels, a body and en engine, so they were all copied on the first car ever made and invented.

The wp25 does look a bit like the Tunze but the ressemblance stop there...everything else is way better and have a much better design. I see it like this..if the Chineses can make such a good pump for so little, then why these companies did not make their pumps better then this?

Have you ever tried opening a tunze pump cover? Have you ever tried sliding the flow control gadget of the 6045 once it's been in the water for a few hours? VERY bad design! and why are they so weak that you must pay 200$ to have something strong enough for a 75 gallons? I think that many of these so called legit companies have been giving us too little for too much and if they did spent money on design, they could have produce a good design at least. I am talking about the tunze.

The wp25 is not an exact copy of the Tunze, it is way better. So suit yourself and buy the inferior product if you wish. I won't.

They can sell them for cheaper because they use ultra cheap labour, and stole the design so they don't have any research and development costs to recover. If the judge in the lawsuit finds them guilty of patent violation than buying their pumps is no different than buying equipment from someone who stole it from a warehouse. Theft is theft; doesn't matter if you like Tunze or not.

[The Codfather]

Originally Posted by Slick Fork

If the judge in the lawsuit finds them guilty of patent violation than buying their pumps is no different than buying equipment from someone who stole it from a warehouse.

What lawsuit. There is no lawsuit.
There was a letter. Thats all. As far as I know, thats where it sits today.
There is no infringment on patent, or this would have gone to court already.
Big dog barked. Thats it.
Buying from someone who stole it from a warehouse?? Please...

[Slick Fork]

Originally Posted by The Codfather

What lawsuit. There is no lawsuit.
There was a letter. Thats all. As far as I know, thats where it sits today.
There is no infringment on patent, or this would have gone to court already.
Big dog barked. Thats it.
Buying from someone who stole it from a warehouse?? Please...

I was under the impression there was a patent proceeding in progress. IF there's a patent infringement and they've stolen the design, it's theft; that doesn't seem complicated to me.

[Aquattro]

Originally Posted by Magma

My question is why do all the "Old Timers" need to make us newbie reef junkies feel like we need to go bankrupt to have a tank?

I guess I'm probably an "old timer", although I wouldn't suggest not buying these. While I love my Tunze pumps, I'll probably buy a couple of these.

[mrhasan]

Originally Posted by Aquattro

I guess I'm probably an "old timer", although I wouldn't suggest not buying these. While I love my Tunze pumps, I'll probably buy a couple of these.

I think the term should have been "brand lovers". I find "old timers" to be more practical in choosing things that "works" instead of just relying on the imprinted names.