Fighting Ich Sucks If You Can't Catch Fish

[daniella3d]

Until one day you will get marine velvet and wipe all your fish gone bye bye.

I cannot understand how someone can manage to kill a fish in quarantine...The QT must be setup so that it is comfortable for the fish and water quality must remain good. Not hard at all to do with a tank and some liverock.

I never lost a single fish in quarantine and I quarantine all my fish no exception.

I had a cleaner wrasse for 2 months in QT, as well as a copperband butterfly and a leopard wrasse...(on different occasions) those are not easy fish yet they went through quarantine easily. Some needed treatment for parasites, others were just on observation and preventive treatment with Paraguard and prazipro.

I took this time to make sure they were healthy and eating well.

How can a fish die in quarantine and would not die in the main tank? that either mean that the QT is not setup properly or the fish would have died anyway because it is too sick.

Originally Posted by Coralgurl

I killed more fish in qt than I've lost to ich so I don't qt my fish. It is playing with fire as there are more serious diseases that will wipe out your tank by introducing a sick fish to your dt. Some will tell you it's a matter of time and it will happen.

I chose the garlic and selcon combo myself and have not lost anyone yet. I used herbtana once, didn't seem to do anything.

Chasing a sick fish will stress it and it's tank mates and make its recovery that much tougher. if you are going to put in a hospital tank to treat, you'll need to put all fish in as well and leave the dt fallow for a min 6-8 weeks to rid the ich from the tank. Treating one fish then returning is pointless as ich will still be in your tank.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do

[Coralgurl]

This is how I killed my fish

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I continued until there were 2 left, 1 chromis and 1 cardinal. By this time I was a mess, stressed my family and ready to quit the hobby. I'm sure I didn't have the qt set up properly and had nothing to do with the condition of the fish, excepting the coral beauty. The fish were all fine until they went in. After 6 1/2 weeks the 2 went back in the dt, the chromis ended up with lympho and died a few weeks later. I still have the cardinal. Due to this experience, I dismantled the tank and said never again. My earlier post clearly acknowledged the risks involved with not qting. I still have the tank and equipment but do not plan to set it up....ever

[daniella3d]

Ok that's probably because you had ammonia in there and you also used copper. Copper is really toxic, so that is probably what killed your fish, not the quarantine itself.

And they must have been pretty sick if you went on with a copper treatment (very harsh). I would never use copper unless there is a positive ID for marine velvet. Other parasites are easy enough to treat without chimical for ich or with mild chimical for brook (Paraguard).

You should probably learn from your mistake and next time do it the right way. Do not use any medication unless it is necessary and use a good quantity of liverock in your quarantine tank and you won't have problem. Surely beat killing of the fish from a nasty introduction or parasites.

Originally Posted by Coralgurl

This is how I killed my fish

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...t=78733&page=6

I continued until there were 2 left, 1 chromis and 1 cardinal. By this time I was a mess, stressed my family and ready to quit the hobby. I'm sure I didn't have the qt set up properly and had nothing to do with the condition of the fish, excepting the coral beauty. The fish were all fine until they went in. After 6 1/2 weeks the 2 went back in the dt, the chromis ended up with lympho and died a few weeks later. I still have the cardinal. Due to this experience, I dismantled the tank and said never again. My earlier post clearly acknowledged the risks involved with not qting. I still have the tank and equipment but do not plan to set it up....ever

[Coralgurl]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Ok that's probably because you had ammonia in there and you also used copper. Copper is really toxic, so that is probably what killed your fish, not the quarantine itself.

And they must have been pretty sick if you went on with a copper treatment (very harsh). I would never use copper unless there is a positive ID for marine velvet. Other parasites are easy enough to treat without chimical for ich or with mild chimical for brook (Paraguard).

You should probably learn from your mistake and next time do it the right way. Do not use any medication unless it is necessary and use a good quantity of liverock in your quarantine tank and you won't have problem. Surely beat killing of the fish from a nasty introduction or parasites.

I understand what you are saying and agree the copper and my inexperience at the time was not a good combo. I did have someone help with the set up and treatment who was doing the same thing. He was documenting his qt methods at the time which I followed, plus we chatted at least once a day. I was not successful, he was, at the time he had 2 moorish idols in his qt, dosing with copper and they both live happily in his tanks.

I learned that everyone has opinions on how to do things and even in this thread, theres those that qt and those that dont. The biggest thing I learned is I need to do what I am comfortable with and decide what works best for my fish, family and my sanity. Both my tanks are stocked with fish so it is not reasonable for me put 20 fish in a 10 gl qt.

The op needs to decide what is best for him.

I've never told anyone not to qt, I've only said what I do to keep my fish healthy, everyone has their own decisions to make.