Fighting Ich Sucks If You Can't Catch Fish

[Coralgurl]

This is how I killed my fish

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I continued until there were 2 left, 1 chromis and 1 cardinal. By this time I was a mess, stressed my family and ready to quit the hobby. I'm sure I didn't have the qt set up properly and had nothing to do with the condition of the fish, excepting the coral beauty. The fish were all fine until they went in. After 6 1/2 weeks the 2 went back in the dt, the chromis ended up with lympho and died a few weeks later. I still have the cardinal. Due to this experience, I dismantled the tank and said never again. My earlier post clearly acknowledged the risks involved with not qting. I still have the tank and equipment but do not plan to set it up....ever

[daniella3d]

Ok that's probably because you had ammonia in there and you also used copper. Copper is really toxic, so that is probably what killed your fish, not the quarantine itself.

And they must have been pretty sick if you went on with a copper treatment (very harsh). I would never use copper unless there is a positive ID for marine velvet. Other parasites are easy enough to treat without chimical for ich or with mild chimical for brook (Paraguard).

You should probably learn from your mistake and next time do it the right way. Do not use any medication unless it is necessary and use a good quantity of liverock in your quarantine tank and you won't have problem. Surely beat killing of the fish from a nasty introduction or parasites.

Originally Posted by Coralgurl

This is how I killed my fish

http://www.canreef.com/vbulletin/sho...t=78733&page=6

I continued until there were 2 left, 1 chromis and 1 cardinal. By this time I was a mess, stressed my family and ready to quit the hobby. I'm sure I didn't have the qt set up properly and had nothing to do with the condition of the fish, excepting the coral beauty. The fish were all fine until they went in. After 6 1/2 weeks the 2 went back in the dt, the chromis ended up with lympho and died a few weeks later. I still have the cardinal. Due to this experience, I dismantled the tank and said never again. My earlier post clearly acknowledged the risks involved with not qting. I still have the tank and equipment but do not plan to set it up....ever

[Coralgurl]

Originally Posted by daniella3d

Ok that's probably because you had ammonia in there and you also used copper. Copper is really toxic, so that is probably what killed your fish, not the quarantine itself.

And they must have been pretty sick if you went on with a copper treatment (very harsh). I would never use copper unless there is a positive ID for marine velvet. Other parasites are easy enough to treat without chimical for ich or with mild chimical for brook (Paraguard).

You should probably learn from your mistake and next time do it the right way. Do not use any medication unless it is necessary and use a good quantity of liverock in your quarantine tank and you won't have problem. Surely beat killing of the fish from a nasty introduction or parasites.

I understand what you are saying and agree the copper and my inexperience at the time was not a good combo. I did have someone help with the set up and treatment who was doing the same thing. He was documenting his qt methods at the time which I followed, plus we chatted at least once a day. I was not successful, he was, at the time he had 2 moorish idols in his qt, dosing with copper and they both live happily in his tanks.

I learned that everyone has opinions on how to do things and even in this thread, theres those that qt and those that dont. The biggest thing I learned is I need to do what I am comfortable with and decide what works best for my fish, family and my sanity. Both my tanks are stocked with fish so it is not reasonable for me put 20 fish in a 10 gl qt.

The op needs to decide what is best for him.

I've never told anyone not to qt, I've only said what I do to keep my fish healthy, everyone has their own decisions to make.