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Old 06-05-2012, 08:32 AM
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:13 AM
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Accessors are damn aggressive and killed my bangai, wrasse and a few others. I would go for chalk bass, royal gamma, just to mention a few....

The 4 fish I will never get is a damsel (clowns are the exception),pseudochromis Aka strawberry dottyback, accessors, and six line wrasse.

Go for friendlier fish and a peacefull tank. I even found Midas blennies to be a pain and abit territorial nipping at your arm when you enter the tank.

Bangaii - a pair is always nice, I recently learned that bangaiis can change sex like clown fish. Don't know how much is true and haven't bothered to look it up but a pair is definitely swayt!

Spotted cardinal - if by spotted you mean pajama then 1

Chalk bass - one of my favorite fish, you should only keep one, picked one up from Jl awhile back but my tank is abit aggressive he wasn't a strong eater and perished. I will get another one, the ones at Jl are phat!

Clowns - a black misbar is cool and I love blackys howeva my current favorite is black ice ice baby

Purple firefish - if you buy either get 1 or 3 another favorite, you may want to get a top as these sometimes go nuclear missile out of water.

Green clown goby - cool fish but I like the red wheeler goby betta!

Hi fin perchlet - are cool fish and tend to come out when they're familiar, just to correct you the hi fin is actually in the anthias family.... Just sayin

Royal gamma - every reef gotta have wun.

The last 2 hmmm.... no thank to six line not a fan of mean fish, your smaller fish might go ping pong and a tang may out grow your 75 quick, I had a few tangs in the 75g and would never put one in again. If you have to have one a small scopas or purple would be my choice.

Other cool fish to google and ponder: fairy wrasse, flashed wrasse, barnacle blenny, mandarin goby, flame cardinal, tail spot blenny, jawfish.
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Old 06-05-2012, 09:33 AM
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Thanks Chris
I don't want to overstock the tank, so it's hard to pick

Bangaiis - i'd like a pair, but there's the total stocking issue, and the fighting issue
Spotted, ya, Pajama, same thing I think, but heard they like to school
Firefish I was concerned about that, I heard the same - either 1 or 3 +
I'll check out the Red Wheeler goby, thanks
I know the Hifin is an Anthia, but I've read they can act like Hawks ...

We need some kind of Wrasse ...

We want a tang that will be happy in our glass box !!!
If we can't have a tang, what other grazer could we have that will keep algae cropped ? Or at least roam around for us to look at ?

Fairy wrasse is too big
Flasher wrasse is an option

Our tank is and always will be covered, so bring on the suggestions

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Old 06-05-2012, 09:40 AM
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Chris and Anthony have made suggestions to stay away from a six line wrasse, but without real reasons why, besides the mandarin issue ...

So, why ?
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Old 06-05-2012, 11:38 AM
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Chris and Anthony have made suggestions to stay away from a six line wrasse, but without real reasons why, besides the mandarin issue ...

So, why ?
Why not? buy the damn fish if you want it. I have one and he's a great fish. You realize this thread will only come to the conclusion that there is no 100% consensus on any one fish or the stocking of various fish together. Any advise you get will most likely be "that persons" own personal experience, which could be the exact opposite for the next. You obviously have read to the end of the internet regarding fish, come to the conclusion there is no guarantee of success and now think the magic combination will appear here.....WELL IT WON'T Buy fish you like, put them in the tank, if you find they are a problem get rid of it. Here are some examples of the fish in my tank that may or may not against the norm, depends where you read and that some people might advise against

I have two Fire fish... they are just fine, there is a dominant so what.

I have 5 Chromis and have had for a long time there have been no fights till the death with one survivior

I have a six line and a Melanurus, the Six line stays "in line"

Bottom line, buy what you want, it doesn't sound like you are going blindly into this..... Did I mention you drive me nuts and I see a great future for you as a talk show host!!
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Old 06-05-2012, 12:54 PM
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Chris and Anthony have made suggestions to stay away from a six line wrasse, but without real reasons why, besides the mandarin issue ...

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The mandarin is a very real issue, please don't buy one in less you can feed it properly. I worked at a lfs years ago and so many of those fish died and are on my conscience...


Also the six-line can be a gamble they can be a model citizen or end up being an absolute terror. If you have a sump or another tank such as a quarantine tank I say go for it and remove him if he starts to misbehave.
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The mandarin is a very real issue, please don't buy one in less you can feed it properly. I worked at a lfs years ago and so many of those fish died and are on my conscience...


Also the six-line can be a gamble they can be a model citizen or end up being an absolute terror. If you have a sump or another tank such as a quarantine tank I say go for it and remove him if he starts to misbehave.

Agreed with the Mandarin Issue, but honestly I love the six line wrasse. It's always active, and it always picking at the rocks. I have never had a bad one. But every experience will be different. I would personally rather have a six line than a manderin anyways. The manderins are hard to keep in newer tanks, as the food supply is just not there.
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6 line wrasse's can turn into terrors. I had considered getting one but most people that have had them said they turned very aggressive.
Spotted(Pajama) Cardinals do better in pairs. Mine are a breeding pair. They will tolerate more than 2, but don't get along.
Bangaii's are fun in a pair as well. I'm not sure if they get along with other cardinal's though, and you definitely want to make sure you get a pair.
As others have pointed out, I would avoid a mandarin unless you are going to feed it their specific food.
For firefish, I've always read that you either get a pair that is already paired up, or stick with one. You're tank is covered so you are good that way.
The rest of your list looks good. A fairy or flasher wrasse will do fine with your current selection. There a tonne to choose from as well.
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Chris and Anthony have made suggestions to stay away from a six line wrasse, but without real reasons why, besides the mandarin issue ...

So, why ?


six lines are one of the most territoriual wrasses

i have one full grown and it will instantly kill any fish that enters the tank thats smaller then him....like literally seconds......an expensive lesson for me

they are alot harder on your pod population then dragonettes, so with a six line in the tank a mandarin is already on the losing side.

six lines do not do well for pest control they get to use to prepared foods and have a huge taste for pods mostly.


they are also hard to catch i have to go fishing for mine as i still dont know where he sleeps.


ill never have one in a tank agaon their colours are beautiful but ive had a few sixlines over the years and they all were territorial but this is the first ive had to adult size and they just get meaner.

my tank is a 90g with lots of liverock and i believe in their adult stage they need more territory.


that said there are species of fish the six line doesnt bother like dragoneets,pipefish etc.


goodluck man wouldnt be me with all the pretty safe wrasses available:P


oh and you would be fine with a smaller tang like the tommini or kole tang or if you got a regular tang as a juvie then swapped him once hes larger


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Old 06-05-2012, 06:49 PM
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If you really want a sixline but don't want to chance the aggression issue (hit and miss with every fish), try a cryptic sixline wrasse (Pseudocheilinops ataenia). Very cool, non-aggressive and a perfect addition to either a small or large reef tank!!!
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