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Old 12-28-2011, 07:29 PM
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They lose money on one or 2 products which are "door crashers" and then they rape you on everything else.

Trust me, I sold home theatre equipment for 5 years.

The tv is at cost or just below cost. But the cables, hd box, warranty, etc have a lot of markup

Same thing with fish stuff. Most people that bought 30 dollar boxes of salt probably ended up spending on other things that had markup for sure

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Old 12-28-2011, 09:38 PM
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They lose money on one or 2 products which are "door crashers" and then they rape you on everything else.

Trust me, I sold home theatre equipment for 5 years.

The tv is at cost or just below cost. But the cables, hd box, warranty, etc have a lot of markup

Same thing with fish stuff. Most people that bought 30 dollar boxes of salt probably ended up spending on other things that had markup for sure
so when you were in retail did you do it to make a living or just for fun?
How much of your salary at the time would you have been willing to give back to the customers??
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sounds like some people should try being self employed, retail or otherwise. they would learn alot.
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Old 12-28-2011, 09:54 PM
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I was quite ****ed. This boxing day sale. I seen livestock that was double the normal price to be marked at whatever percent off. I've seen this on regular days also were the price was bumped one day to be marked on sale at yesterday's cost
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Comments like LFSs are raping you are really inflamitory......If you shopped somewhere that inflated their costs just to discount it for boxing day then you shouldn't support that shop...... If you feel that their prices are too high then don't shop there...... There are things like overhead, employee wages, livestock losses that all have to be factored in to the price of everything in the store.... I mean, geez maybe the LFSs shouldn't have boxing day sale if we are gonna get raked over the coals for making money for the rest of the year?.... The sales are for the customers and while yes they still make a profit on some things on Boxing day, other things, they break even or even take a loss on
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Comments like LFSs are raping you are really inflamitory......If you shopped somewhere that inflated their costs just to discount it for boxing day then you shouldn't support that shop...... If you feel that their prices are too high then don't shop there...... There are things like overhead, employee wages, livestock losses that all have to be factored in to the price of everything in the store.... I mean, geez maybe the LFSs shouldn't have boxing day sale if we are gonna get raked over the coals for making money for the rest of the year?.... The sales are for the customers and while yes they still make a profit on some things on Boxing day, other things, they break even or even take a loss on
Boxing day isn't for making money. It's for building brand awareness and brand loyalty. So that the customers that you satisfied on boxing day will come back many times over the following year

if i had a store of any kind, i'd sell everything at cost on boxing day. take as many customers as possible from the competition.

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Old 12-28-2011, 10:55 PM
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Boxing day isn't for making money. It's for building brand awareness and brand loyalty. So that the customers that you satisfied on boxing day will come back many times over the following year

if i had a store of any kind, i'd sell everything at cost on boxing day. take as many customers as possible from the competition.
The only part against this is that there's little competition on boxing day. It's not like the futureshop/visions, etc that have one every block. Pretty much everyone in the lower mainland was at JL's or King ed's, then headed to either OA or OC. So as long as you're not out to lunch on terrible prices, a 10% off would draw people in just as much as a 20%+. This boxing day i spent a couple hundred bucks on random crap, and figured I'd saved about $40, definitely staying home and shopping online next year.
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So many assumptions made in this thread. Ive been on every side of this industry and it really is amazing at how some of these stores keep their doors open. Margins on many items are ridiculously low.


Some People are throwing numbers out there without seemingly having a clue.
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So that the customers that you satisfied on boxing day will come back many times over the following year.
Having worked in retail for too many years I can honestly say you get more P.Od customers from Boxing day than you do happy ones, long lines, limited stock, cranky customers fighting to save a few bucks, like I mentioned before, the sale is just a good opportunity to unload excess Christmas stock and make room for new product. Personally I hate boxing day shopping, I will pay the extra few bucks and avoid the crowds or shop online.
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Boxing day isn't for making money. It's for building brand awareness and brand loyalty. So that the customers that you satisfied on boxing day will come back many times over the following year

if i had a store of any kind, i'd sell everything at cost on boxing day. take as many customers as possible from the competition.
I'd hate to say that, but I totally disagree.

The prime example is Big Al's Salt special. They use it as a loss leader, but many of the customers that showed up for it did not buy anything else. I was there in the morning and I saw a lot of people that would not shop there normally any other time of the year.

We can lower prices when our suppliers give us special deals (drystock), during holiday times, as they want to reduce their stock. Livestock prices almost never fluctuate during the year.

As for a store that increases prices just before these sales to show the special markdowns, buyer beware.


As for markups, they are needed to keep all stores in business. There are too many expenses to even name, everone gets a piece of the pie before we even see the products. A good guestimate of operating costs a store needs to make is at least $500 a day (Profit) to break even per day.

I remember this time last year, a canreefer said they can bring in pepermint shrimp and sell the from his house for $2 each, I told him I'd buy 500 alone for my store. That sale never happened, I wonder why?

LFS's are completely different than any other retail outlets, other companies can close for a week and do nothing and their inventory remains the same, try that with a LFS and you walk into a room as if someone just stolen from you. Apples and oranges people

Just my opinion..

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