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Old 12-11-2011, 09:35 PM
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This is true..... But if we choose to be involved in this hobby, however selfish that may be, then we can also choose to support retailers that do things legally...... No?
Sure that's what we do when we decide where our dollars are spent. There would be people/retailers that would have bought the rock regardless of how it was obtained I don't think he would have brought in 10 tons without a few of them being pre sold or at the very least knowing he could move it. How can anyone be certain the rock they have in their tank, the fish they take home or the corals they buy are 100 percent legal. With an industry that starts mostly in impoverished nations you could hardly blame a local for cutting a few corners (or breaking the law) to feed his family. But when that product hits the shops who can say with complete certainty that it was brought in legal.

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Old 12-11-2011, 09:48 PM
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If a person has a problem with the way the industry is they should leave the hobby rather than support it.
Right, but the "the way the industry is" in general is not illegal importation!

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we can also choose to support retailers that do things legally...... No?
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How can anyone be certain the rock they have in their tank, the fish they take home or the corals they buy are 100 percent legal.
As a hobbyist you never know, that's just such an open statement that it is kinda ridiculous.
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:57 PM
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If one more person refers to the permits as CITIES I'm borrowing Mike's AK =)

Given the mood around here I should add that that's a joke
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:58 PM
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As a hobbyist you never know, that's just such an open statement that it is kinda ridiculous.
It is when you take it out of context, not so much when you read what went along with it.

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Old 12-11-2011, 10:02 PM
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If one more person refers to the permits as CITIES I'm borrowing Mike's AK =)
Agreed! I refrained from commenting.

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It is when you take it out of context, not so much when you read what went along with it.
It was still ridiculous. I just don't like big huge quotes, so I only quoted exactly what I was commenting on. I always do this.
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:11 PM
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It was still ridiculous. I just don't like big huge quotes, so I only quoted exactly what I was commenting on. I always do this.
How conveeeeeeenient lol Okay I'm done again...
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Old 12-11-2011, 10:27 PM
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we could only hope....

so basically since there is bad in the world and always will be,...no one should bother to try for any measure of proper behavior? Beautiful!!!

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Old 12-11-2011, 10:46 PM
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we could only hope....

so basically since there is bad in the world and always will be,...no one should bother to try for any measure of proper behavior? Beautiful!!!
Maybe your crusade is driven by the guilt you feel in having an aquarium full of captive creatures? I can't say, but because I don't bow to your lynch mob metality when starting this post doesn't mean you are any better than me.
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