Bin Laden

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Originally Posted by sphelps

There has been many published books by reputable professors, one being Prof David Griffin, hardly some guy in a basement.

If you want to talk reputable sources the only actual evidence provided by the US government even linking OBL to 911 is their so called confession tape which was released exactly when Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair had failed to prove Bin Laden's responsibility for 911 and both men were trying to win international public support, particularly in the Islamic world, for the anti-terrorist campaign. Then look at the tape, he is a weighty man with a black beard, not a grey one. His pale skin had suddenly become darker, and he had a different shaped nose. His artistic hands with slender fingers had transformed into those of a pugilist. Furthermore, Bin Laden can be seen writing a note with his right hand, although he is left-handed. Then consider some of his comments about how he knew the iron structure of the twin towers would melt yet he was actually a civil engineer in a passed life and would know the towers were constructed from steel not iron and a hydrocarbon fire from jet fuel can only reach 1800F while steel melts at 2800F.

Maybe, I really can't say that I know for sure and without a doubt. I'm not an intelligence expert and I haven't watched the videos you're talking about. I do know that somebody flew those airplanes into the world trade centres and the pentagon. They do have the confessed "mastermind", I forget his name, in custody. Every government in the world has agreed at least publicly that Bin Laden and Al-Quaeda were behind the attacks. So, that's good enough evidence for me until someone shows me something absolutely game changing.

[PoonTang]

He's not really dead, he's just in hiding, I am pretty sure reports will soon surface about him sharing a condo with Elvis somewhere. I am sure the National Inquirer will have the full TRUE story out by next week LOL.

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It was the Illuminati!!
But seriously, my jury is still out on this one. Ill wait for more info to filter in before I form a real opinion.

And as an aside, just read this article; http://www.thestarphoenix.com/news/O...445/story.html

And am starting to feel credibility slipping away as the American goverment is trying harder to paint a desparate picture of OBL black evil heart.

[spawn]

I Think it's BS, I think he was dead in a rat hole in 2001 but like said by others here WAR is good business as long as the machine is running. I think the real reason this timely announcement was made was that the US fed. held a press conference last week to announce that they will not raise interest rates for quite some time..... (Because they can't afford to)so that means more QE.(printing Money) that they can't afford to put into circulation either.(but it's the lesser of two evils right now) Long story short the US is bankrupt & this & other announcements will be made in hope of gathering some national unity before the US greenback falls off the world stage as the most widely accepted currency, which will have very, very bad effects.

America is "winning" (maybe Charlie Sheen wasn't so crazy) He just had drug induced visions of the future.

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No matter how evil he is I can not take pleasure in someone's death.

He is responsible for the death of thousands. Who is responsible for the death of 100,000 Iraqi civillians?

This thing will not end with the death of Bin Laden. As long as the Muslims have a grievance they will be fighting us. As despicable as their terrorist tactics are, there are no other tactics they can use to fight the U.S. They are faced with an overwhelming military force and they are at a huge technological disadvantage when the U.S. has stealth aircraft, cruise missiles, predator drones, etc. What sort of tactics would we use if our country were invaded by the U.S.? Most likely improvised explosive devices.

We will not have peace until we have justice. Not to say that the terrorists are justified in their actions, but until the lives of people in those countries are improved, and they are able to live with some dignity, they will hate us and they will try to kill us.

[ScubaSteve]

Oh man... I don't even know where to start with this one... It makes my head hurt.

OK, so a small disclaimer here before I join the rant: I'm not a USA fan. So I apologize before hand if I say anything that offends anyone... but you know, this is the internet and I have a keyboard so I'm entitled to an opinion, right?

Ok, so Bin Laden has been killed... again. I couldn't really argue with them the first times he was killed, nor this time. So I'll go out on a limb and assume they got the real Slim Shady this time.

However, I call BS on a lot of this. Part of it is probably just media and half-assed, sensationalized reporting but there is something that makes me uneasy about this.

The part that really set off alarms was when all the news reports started saying "he was buried at sea according to Islamic traditions"... Whaaa? Really? First of all, I'm not even Muslim and I know that's a load of crap. Their tradition is to be buried within a day with your head facing the holy city, not having your dead arse dumped over the side of a boat. Second, they expect me to buy into this whole "We beat terrorism" b******t they've been touting but, oh, ya.. we kinda dumped the body off a boat so we can't really prove it. Our bad, World. Our bad...

And besides, when has the US ever been known to really go out of their way to respect Islamic traditions... Just sayin'. Like, the US is not exactly universally known for acceptance and religious tolerance..

Even if they did bury Bin Laden according to his traditions (which they didn't), they did something really stupid. Now I'm the most anti-war person you'll probably meet and I'm not for disrespecting religious traditions, but in respecting Bin Laden's traditions at burial they signal to the world they recognize him as, in the words of The Dude, a worthy adversary (explicatives deleted). Had it been the most epic battle of great nations in a war to end all wars, you'd do that... not someone you have, more or less, been referring to as the cockroach of the world. Napolean, gets respect. Bin Laden, not so much.

So, this is probably the media being retarded as usual. The likely cause is that they dumped the body at sea so people couldn't rally around it. Sure, good call. But then again, where's the proof? They've been playing a BS war for a decade that is basically run through media, so why the hell would I buy into this now? They embalmed Houssien's sons' bodies for proof before burial, what is the difference now?

Ok, so ranting aside... My guess is that he's probably ACTUALLY dead this time; unless he's part cat, has 9 lives and always lands on his feet if dropped from a minimum height of 3 feet. But while he might be dead this is not the last we're going to be hearing about this. Bin Laden is Dead, Al-Qaeda Lives. I bet anything that in the next few weeks there is going to be some new story, person or boogey man that will come out of this that will be just another excuse to go to war. Again.

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to a man that issued a "Kill" order.

I wonder if they are going to ask for it back.