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Old 02-26-2010, 09:18 PM
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Thank you Kevin,
This is what I was kind of getting at, this is the first time I have ever seen a warranty on live fish over 24 hours and to have it expanded 365 times that amount is... baffling to say the least.

I thought it was industry standard to not provide warranty on live fish due to the uncertainty of the buyer and I'm going to need some details on that warranty if I wish to commit.
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Ken;
I am looking at the same order sheet and will be ordering some myself but don't see any customer guarantees.
None the less How would you handle this ?.
Since the order form shows a limited quantity and most resellers have been looking for these (like you said 6+ months) you would replace one if it dies with your stock? or.
Having a replacement seahorse sent to you would cost a fair bit , would you cover that cost or the customer?
After 1 week, 1 month, 6 months, 1 year are these sea horses going to be readily available so you can replace with your guarantee. At that point would you be refunding the customers $.
Would each replacement seahorse start again the 1 year guarantee? If so you could keep a "poor hobbiest" in seahorses for the rest of BWA's lifespan.
Would you control who you sell to (ie people with seahorse setups) there is potentially a limited supply and with a guarantee everyone could give them a shot.
These are the first questions that come to mind.
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Old 02-27-2010, 05:13 AM
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I thought it was industry standard to not provide warranty on live fish due to the uncertainty of the buyer and I'm going to need some details on that warranty if I wish to commit.
Levi
Levi, That industry standard needs to be changed. Stores should be held accountable for the livestock they sell out too fast or sick. It should never be considered buyer beware. We in fact have a 72 hour live guarantee for our customers.

Like I said this is a guarantee from the Breeder, and is quite unpresidented. That is why I contacted the wholesaler and breeder on this issue. I have an email confirming the guarantee from our suppliers.

Kevin, The reason that I have been looking for months for these is not because they were not available from this breeder, but we did not know of this breeder until recently. Colors like this were not avaliable from mainstream suppliers that most stores dealt with. When was the last time anyone saw Red seahorses in Canada? The only reason you have this list in your hands is because of my diligence in looking for them in the past months, and willingness to share it with other stores that deal with my wholesaler. When I finally found them I passed the breeders information to the wholesaler that supplied you this list so they would be avaliable to the general public readily. Look lower in the list, it states, "Seahorse Stock - 1 year live guarantee - no discount" in the blue bar. If you do not see this then you are not dealing with the same breeding facility. Also what they have available for sale, is not their total stock, they have many grow tanks running at once.

As for your comment of "poor hobbyist", anyone that knows our store, or has had dealings with us, know we don't just sell our fish to anyone that has a fistful of dollars, we question the customer of their setups, and experience, and match the livestock accordingly. Seahorses are for the advanced hobbists.

I don't know how many customers I have personally turned down because they were not ready for seahorses.

If we notice someone not experienced enough or has a tank not mature enough we don't sell it. It is that simple.

If the odd person slips through the crack or gives us incorrect information or just lies that will all come out when they need them replaced. Replacements will not be immediate unless we have them in stock, otherwise they have to await the next shipment. Most people learn from their mistakes, and if they don't then I will refund the purchase amount. It is not like I would lose anything anyhow, as the livestock will still be replaced regardless.

Not often do we get live guarantee's like this, and it should be utilized by the stores and not kept quiet.

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Old 02-27-2010, 05:22 AM
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Please, this is not a discussion on ethics nor policies. I was not meant to be, so lets keep it that way.

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Old 03-03-2010, 07:25 PM
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Oreder is expected next week, added a small fish order to it too.

Orange Seahorse
Bright Orange Seahorse
Yellow Seahorse
Red Seahorse

Purple Tang
Golden Heart Trigger
Emperor Angelfish
Bright Red Nemo Clown
Personifer Angel
Yellow Blenny
Red Spotted Blenny
Blue Carpet Anemone
Flourrescent Blue Carpet Anemone
Flourrescent Green Carpet Anemone
Flourrescent Green Bulb Anemone
Teddy Bare Crab
Cleaner Shrimp
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Oreder is expected next week, added a small fish order to it too.

Orange Seahorse
Bright Orange Seahorse
Yellow Seahorse
Red Seahorse

Purple Tang
Golden Heart Trigger
Emperor Angelfish
Bright Red Nemo Clown
Personifer Angel
Yellow Blenny
Red Spotted Blenny
Blue Carpet Anemone
Flourrescent Blue Carpet Anemone
Flourrescent Green Carpet Anemone
Flourrescent Green Bulb Anemone
Teddy Bare Crab
Cleaner Shrimp
Just my luck! I'm in Edmonton tomorrow and Friday but I'm a week too early for the good stuff! I have been having the worst luck finding a blue carpet.
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Just my luck! I'm in Edmonton tomorrow and Friday but I'm a week too early for the good stuff! I have been having the worst luck finding a blue carpet.
I can ship if needed. We have 3 coming.

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Ken,
I just talked to Kevin at Red Coral and he informed me he would not put a 1 year guarantee on the red&orange seahorses coming in. Would you ship to Airdrie? Also what would be the terms on the 1 year guarantee? I have kept seahorses in the past and am looking to add 2 reds to my tank. If one died would I get one from your stock or from your next order or would I receive my money back? What conditions would apply to this guarantee?
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How many seahorses are in the seahorse tank now?
It is not recommended to mix seahorses from different sources in the same tank.
While it has been done, it usually leads to problems most times causing death of one species or sometimes both.
Seahorses become somewhat tolerant of pathogens they grow up with but when exposed to pathogens of other sourced seahorses/fish, they many times succumb to this new exposure.
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Ken,
I just talked to Kevin at Red Coral and he informed me he would not put a 1 year guarantee on the red&orange seahorses coming in. Would you ship to Airdrie? Also what would be the terms on the 1 year guarantee? I have kept seahorses in the past and am looking to add 2 reds to my tank. If one died would I get one from your stock or from your next order or would I receive my money back? What conditions would apply to this guarantee?
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What Kevin decides to do is his option. He may not have the same supplier though too.

I was informed by the breeder, as long as I have the body they will replace it, if we have it in stock we will replace it on the spot. If not, we would have to wait until the next one is avaliable.

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Hi Ken,

Do you have comfirmation on weather or not your getting this order today?
 


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