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Old 03-02-2010, 05:49 PM
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Fish are kind of like over sensitive people if anything is out of whack then they start to fret about it and they get stressed from anything being out of whack that is why a bigger tank is better. A bigger tank tanks little thing that go out of whack and can adjust on it's own some times and other times all you need to do is a 10% water change and everything is back to normal. I have an angle that killed a brain and my tank just adjusted to the change in the brain dieing I try to catch the angle to no avail so I will wait and try a bottle trap latter it does not pick on anything else. It did try and pick at a monti but the polups retract and the fish got nothing now leaves them a loan.
Forgot to mention ICK starts in the fishes gills so they could be reacting to that a fresh water dip before QT will help alleviate them a bit get anything that is on the gills but loose off.

There may have been something that powdered ALK dose stuff that has set off your tank a chemical unknown or not specified.

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Old 03-02-2010, 10:47 PM
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Update:

All fish still alive... all trying to eat today. but still breathing rather quick. I got some reef stability stuff from AI at lunch and i put it in the tank.. checked the water again first... same readings as yesterday but ammonia has dropped to 0... so now what???
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:46 PM
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Well..stop putting stuff into the tank. Sounds like the tank needs some stability. Be prepared to do more water changes if the situation seems to get worse...otherwise, it should just get better.
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Old 03-02-2010, 11:55 PM
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lol I was told by the guy at the store to add that, and it should help stabilize my tank. I haven't added anything other then that.. but i am being told to go get some carbon! I have water ready to do another water change... just not sure who big to do it or when! tis is the first time in 2 years anything has ever happened in my tank. it's all a HUGE learning curve, so i want to know as much as possible!
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:09 AM
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Personally I wouldn't add anything "chemical" to the tank. Do a couple of waterchanges, if the fish are looking better, maybe do a small waterchange like 10-15%. Do another one tomorrow and the next day. Smaller waterchanges might be better at this point.

As for the carbon, I would imagine whatever nasty was in the tank has likely disappeared or is not as "strong" as it was. Waterchanges should help.

Whatever issue that went on in your tank may not be reflected in any kind of test readings you can measure. However, something is in the water as evidenced by the fish issues. I would just do a couple of waterchanges and see how it goes.
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Old 03-03-2010, 12:17 AM
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You can run the carbon that will help take toxins out of the water. If you do a water change I'd do no less than 5g as your tank is small that would work out to about 20% which is ok. Was the stability stuff called cycle as that would help with the biological filter also or was it Super Bac Aquarium which will also help your bio filter IE:Live Rock replentish after a crash. It also removes ammonia. But for now stop addingand sit back and watch the fish see if they eat anything and if there breathing settles down a bit you know you are going in the right direction.. as I said before you can lower the temp a couple degrees and add a air stone this will help the fish and the stress turn the lights on the tank off, room lights are ok for now till you know what is happening.

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Old 03-03-2010, 12:18 AM
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water change it is!!! Going to do a 15% right now... and another 15% tomorrow!!! the skunk clown has come out for the first time in 2 days!
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Old 03-03-2010, 01:21 AM
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good sign if fish are coming out, your almost there. watch those fish as much as yo can any signs they start going down hill get them to a QT. Feed garlic extract if you have it as it should stimulate them into eating and build their immunity system. You can also add 1 drop for every 5 gallons to help stimulate them to eat.

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