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Old 02-23-2010, 01:36 AM
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Exactly. For my really basic basement reno I'm putting my laundry tub in after I pass inspection. Will rip it out if I ever sell.
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Old 02-23-2010, 01:38 AM
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Actually as annoying as it is, I still assume that the requirements are in place for a reason and that reason is probably more elaborate than "we're the city and we like jerking you guys around" (no, really, I'm sure there's more to it than that. I have faith..) .. So, if it's not 100% right, it's good that I know about it and correct it properly. I don't want anything lingering over me "I wonder if this is not right.."
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Actually as annoying as it is, I still assume that the requirements are in place for a reason and that reason is probably more elaborate than "we're the city and we like jerking you guys around" (no, really, I'm sure there's more to it than that. I have faith..) .. So, if it's not 100% right, it's good that I know about it and correct it properly. I don't want anything lingering over me "I wonder if this is not right.."
I tend to agree, if you didn't do it the way it's suposed to be done and you run into problems later you'll be kicking yourself for not doing it right in the first place.
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Not to mention if you flood your basement or burn something due to electrical issues the insurance company could ask for your permits. Even if it passed there would likely be an investigation which could bring out some nasty skeletons in your basement! "Looks like your tub flooded the basement. Oh, your plumbing passed so its okay! Oh wait, this tub wasn't here during inspection, sorry Mr. Tony, the flood is your problem, so long see ya!"
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I'm really wondering about insurance companies denying a claim if no permit was issued. Guess would need to re-read the fine print on the policy but don't remember seeing the clause "no permit, declined".

Could see problems if there was a gross violation, like the lights from the grow-op, powered by the bypassed meter causing a fire, but really questioning that if I wired a receptacle, without a permit, to code using the proper wire, enclosures, etc...

As for the value of permits my little rant. I was at my new place when the final occupancy permit was signed off by the City. The gas line (no meter) had yet to be hooked up, so technically no heat or hot water, deck construction was approved (spacing between boards etc) though all the timber was sitting on the ground in the backyard still with the steel banding. Later the permit process frustrated me with the builder as got from him "City signed off, to bad" and from the City 'pay an engineer to produce a report, we'll admit we missed, the builder will walk and we'll come after you until fully resolved to our total and complete satisfaction or you can just drop it'.
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I'll be honest and say I didn't permit for the electrical I did for my tank. If it becomes a problem when I sell the house then I'll yank them out, it would take me all of an hour. I had an electrician friend of mine look it over, said it's all good.

I do plan to finish off the unfinished portion of my basment with a bathroom and another spare beadroom and I will permit for those changes.

I didn't permit for the reno's to the main floor but I technicaly didn't move anything, plumbing didn't change, electrical didn't change, a couple outlets may have been moved a few feet but nothing was rewired. I could get hasseled for removing a load bearing wall and putting in a header but that can be inspected from the attic if I ever needed to have it done.
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On the sale of my house the sellers were going to withhold $5000 if I didn't provide my basement permits. Everyone buying these days demands to see permits. At the very least it makes selling a home easier.

But yeah I won't have my pex or tub in. Run all of it after inspection and remove if I ever leave.
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