280g Inwall - Page 19

christyf5 · #**181** 02-22-2010, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lastlight

Did you help bring his tank home? He may not have even lived at this address Doug LOL =)

Delphinus · #**182** 02-23-2010, 12:50 AM

Well .... alas, not quite ready for drywall. Did not pass the electrical or plumbing. Did at least pass the construction inspection, so the silver lining is I'm not in danger of losing my permits in March.

Wasn't really expecting to pass electrical so not a huge surprise, at least the findings were minor. Some were due to me misreading what constituted as "ready for rough in inspection", others were "I just didn't know you needed to do that." For example of the first kind, the guidelines state "Please note: do not secure plugs, switches, and lights to outlet boxes on first inspection. If you wish to to terminate the devices and surface mount lights to the wires for this inspection, do not fasten to the electrical boxes." I misinterpreted this to mean that I didn't *have* to install plugs and just hang the wires out of the boxes. Where I went wrong is that pigtail splices still need to be done. Ok so my bad. I totally see the requirement now above this line.

No big deal.

Other things like the outer sheath was extending more than 1/4" past the cable clamps in some boxes .. and single gang boxes that have splices need to be 3" deep, and I used 2.5" for all of them. So 3 of those need to be replaced.

Again no big deal - I didn't really know where I was going to be deficient, now I do .. so it's all good. Won't take very long to correct these and get him back in to reinspect.

The real disappointment of the day was the plumbing fail. The culprit is the laundry sink in the tank room draining into the floor drain. Apparently this is a huge no-no.

I've been directed to jackhammer the floor, hard plumb the drain into the 3" line in the concrete (ie., the line for the floor drain), and vent the sink drain to the roof or to the nearest vented drain stem.

I guess I'll be fixing that off-centre floor drain after all.

Oh well. Live and learn and move forward.

Skimmerking · #**183** 02-23-2010, 01:08 AM

Why are you letting people in your house Tony when you are doing reno's do dry wall it and done i never tell the city about my reno's on many times i get the city can we come in and inspect your house and I say nope you can inspect from the sidewalk.

Lance · #**184** 02-23-2010, 01:14 AM

Tony, can you remove the laundry sink for now? After passing inspection you can go ahead and run it into the floor drain.

Delphinus · #**185** 02-23-2010, 01:33 AM

I dunno. It would look mighty strange having a sink hookup without a sink. I would not be able to bluff my way through it if I was asked what's up with that. I totally didn't see it coming either. Surely I'm not the only one who's ever done that .. the HRV drains into the floor drain, the hot water tank overflow .. the A/C .. all just lines that hang into the floor drain. It was like 2 minutes into the inspection when he was all "well, we're done here, sorry."

And why bother with the permits? I don't know. I'm starting to understand why people don't bother. At the end of the day, if all goes well .. your taxes go up.

So what's the incentive? ... In my case, I've just learned to be a pessimist. If something goes wrong, who's liability is it? And if we sell the house down the road what then.

In fact it's my total lack of poker face ability that got me into the permits mess in the first place. I just wanted electrical .. I went to city hall and the guy's first question was "why do you want an electrical permit? Are you developing your basement, by any chance?" "Well, ah, not .. really .. er .. yes, yes I am..." "Ok then you need to fill out this and this and that .. and .. ok there you go! You're now officially 3 permits richer than you were 20 minutes ago." "Uh, thanks ..."

lastlight · #**186** 02-23-2010, 01:36 AM

Exactly. For my really basic basement reno I'm putting my laundry tub in after I pass inspection. Will rip it out if I ever sell.

Delphinus · #**187** 02-23-2010, 01:38 AM

Not helping...

lastlight · #**188** 02-23-2010, 01:38 AM

On the sale of my house the sellers were going to withhold $5000 if I didn't provide my basement permits. Everyone buying these days demands to see permits. At the very least it makes selling a home easier.

But yeah I won't have my pex or tub in. Run all of it after inspection and remove if I ever leave.

Delphinus · #**189** 02-23-2010, 01:42 AM

Actually as annoying as it is, I still assume that the requirements are in place for a reason and that reason is probably more elaborate than "we're the city and we like jerking you guys around" (no, really, I'm sure there's more to it than that. I have faith..) .. So, if it's not 100% right, it's good that I know about it and correct it properly. I don't want anything lingering over me "I wonder if this is not right.."

fishoholic · #**190** 02-23-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus

Actually as annoying as it is, I still assume that the requirements are in place for a reason and that reason is probably more elaborate than "we're the city and we like jerking you guys around" (no, really, I'm sure there's more to it than that. I have faith..) .. So, if it's not 100% right, it's good that I know about it and correct it properly. I don't want anything lingering over me "I wonder if this is not right.."

I tend to agree, if you didn't do it the way it's suposed to be done and you run into problems later you'll be kicking yourself for not doing it right in the first place.