Mac versu PC,{snicker,snicker}

[Snaz]

Originally Posted by fkshiu

Laserjet 4L

That is a great printer and I glad to see another one still chugging out pages. After that printer HP went to hell and and I would not recommend ANY of their products to anyone.

Oh and Windows 7 is awesome for a home and business.

[bignose]

I purchased a aluminum iMac 3 months ago and I think its amazing. They are pricey but they are worth it. The computer is absolutely silent and they look great.

[xtreme]

I have been using Apple computers for 25 years at home and with having to put up with Windows machines at work I would never buy one for personal use. And like already mentioned if you still need to run the odd windows application you can!

[pinhead]

Here's an interesting article to stir up the Mac vs. PC argument http://www.cracked.com/article_18377...red-apple.html

The patent for point #1 is interesting - http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...g-program.html

but I can imagine the headlines if someone can't call 911 on their iphone because Apple is forcing you to watch one of their ads and locks up your hardware until you look at it.

[mr.wilson]

I'm happy with my Macs (17" Macbookpro, G5 Tower, G4 Tower, Iphone). My wife has a Sony Vaio and has had no problems with hardware, but the operating system (Vista) crashes every two or three months sometimes more often.

It's possible that Windows 7 will fix these problems, but I don't see what I would gain in switching to a Windows machine.

[Crytone]

Vista was a catastrophe but I've been running Windows 7 since Beta and have never crashed and had no problems. It's much improved over Vista and I prefer it over XP even (my favorite OS for many years now).

What I don't understand about Apple is they have no problems with users running Bootcamp, VMware, Parallels, etc.. to be able to install a Windows operating system on an Apple. BUT they are adamantly against anyone installing their OSX on anything but Macs. How is that playing fair?!

I ran a dualboot 'Hackintosh' for a while but always went back to XP since I was a gamer. For a general use (ie- no games!) I think Macs are great though!

[Ron99]

Originally Posted by pinhead

Here's an interesting article to stir up the Mac vs. PC argument http://www.cracked.com/article_18377...red-apple.html

The patent for point #1 is interesting - http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...g-program.html

but I can imagine the headlines if someone can't call 911 on their iphone because Apple is forcing you to watch one of their ads and locks up your hardware until you look at it.

Stupid article, sorry. It's kind of biased to make things look bad when they really aren't as the writer describes. Do you really believe Apple would lock you out of calling 911? They tend to be a bit smarter then that And the article says that other phone makers let you do whatever you want to. Right. Ever had a cell phone with USB connectivity disabled so you couldn't do photo transfers etc. directly to your computers so that the carriers could charge you for sending them etc.?

Originally Posted by Crytone

What I don't understand about Apple is they have no problems with users running Bootcamp, VMware, Parallels, etc.. to be able to install a Windows operating system on an Apple. BUT they are adamantly against anyone installing their OSX on anything but Macs. How is that playing fair?!

Steve jobs is a perfectionist and he feels that strictly controlling the hardware and software combination ensures the user experience they want and avoids both the nescesity of supporting umpteen hardware configurations and also the possibility of problems and issues due to strange hardware configurations. For a few peoeple who like to pimp their own computer or fiddle with hardware etc that may be a problem and you may not agree with it but for the vast majority having something that just works without having to worry about whether your hardware is supported or compatible with everything else you want to install is better. I think the only reason they let you run Windows in one way or another is to help convert Windows users over so they can still run Windows apps if they want or need to. Sell more Macs that way. One computer to rule them all

[fkshiu]

Originally Posted by Ron99

For a few peoeple who like to pimp their own computer or fiddle with hardware etc that may be a problem and you may not agree with it but for the vast majority having something that just works without having to worry about whether your hardware is supported or compatible with everything else you want to install is better.

Bingo. This is what your average everyday non-geek computer user wants - simplicity. And it's the reason why (along with some brilliant marketing) that Apple's market share has grown so much against PCs recently.

[Funky_Fish14]

Aside from Gaming (which restricts you to PC only if you really want to game), then IMO they are different but equal machines. Each has their own advantages/disadvantages.

PC's are easier to 'screw-up' for the average user/less 'stupid-move' friendly. But if you do use it correctly(Ie: not opening bad mail or visiting unknown sites, other stuff like that) then they operate fantastically. My family has been PC users forever, my Dad always upgrades the lap-top, etc... I have a 4 year old desktop that was $2K on purchase... it still runs like a champ and is still a very good/fast/reliable computer. I do however take moderate care of it (but stupid stuff can still result in problems, I have found PC's are always more vulnerable 'in their daily lives'). I love my PC desktop and would not get rid of it.

In the last few years I've also gotten in to macs. In late november I purchased a macbook pro and I am loving it. The user interface took a slight bit of getting used to but is fantastic. I mean the keyboard and desktop, window buttons, shortcuts, etc.. The computer is incredibly well-built (as mentioned by others), much better than anybody's PC laptops. It is silent, and rarely gets warm (unless I really really really push it). Even when warm, Its never uncomfortable.

The mac has many great programs out of the box and with the Iwork program installed, it is actually just fine for me as a school computer (this was the point of purchasing it, but I've found it to work just as well for my daily life, and it is fast too). Some features PC's have that it doesnt, I miss, but there is little to dislike about it. Also, mine has actually fallen 4' once, and dropped 3' another time, and it was completely unharmed.

I prefer the PC's as desktop, great workhorse, good for 'work' stuff... and the Mac is awesome as a 'daily living' computer, if that makes any sense? I personally dont like desktop macs, and I dont like PC laptops. I find the mac laptop is more convenient and I am never really working 'on the go' so it suits my needs very well.

If there is a store around you available... go get a staff member to take you through a Mac computer, and show you all the stuff about it. Play around with it for a little while. Go to the store and browse canreef on it for an hour or something. Then go check out the PC you are looking at. Using the computers (and getting someone to show you what they can do, particularly for the macs this is helpful) will be the best way to make your choice.

Cheers,

Chris

[lastlight]

Originally Posted by Funky_Fish14

I prefer the PC's as desktop

Fire up a MacPro with a Cinema HD screen and please post back =) Heck even a 24" iMac...great desktop that takes UP very little desktop.