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Old 12-10-2009, 03:47 AM
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If it is flat worm you can try and get as much of the white stuff out of the tank. Do a 20% water change to alleviate the water conditions. If it does not improve the out break at least it will give you more time to figure it out. Best thing you can do is move your fish to another tank all together. If the nem dying then there is little you can do to help it out, but you can help save your fish. Does the water smell? Nems smell really bad when they die really bad.

Take a sample of the white stuff to Red Coral they may know of a couple of tests that they can do 1 would be to put some on a slide and under a microscope. One can get a good idea for a slide as to what it is if you have contacts in a lab. They can match it up to pics of slides they have on file or one could try and contact a university and ask some there if they would like try and figure it out as a lab assignment. Marine bio Lab.

salinity should be between 1.023 -1.025
Temp should be no lower than 75 but should be at 78 or 79.
I keep mine at 78 but has droped the 76 for a few days when it gets realy cold in my basement, It all depends on the Nem that you have.
here is and artical on Nems.
http://www.saltcorner.com/sections/z...s/anemones.htm
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Old 12-10-2009, 03:54 AM
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It doesn't smell at all, and they are round "colonies" they don't look like worms... I have already done a 10% water change 7 days ago and a 20-25% water change 2 days ago, still have high ammonia!

I will definintely take in a water sample though and if ammonia levels aren't down in the am I bought a spare tank to switch everything over if needed. I think now I just have to wait for the "Stability" chemicals to kick in and reduce the ammonia... if not, I'm lost for a solution other than emptying and cleaning the problem tank
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:00 AM
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Would over feeding Kent Marine Coral Accel cause all these problems? I thought I was on the cautious side only using it 2-3 times a week but I'm starting to question it now...

I have polyps and it was recommended to put this in my tank to help keep them healthy?
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:06 AM
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I have 3 clown fish (2 spp), the green tip polyps, a cleaner shrimp, anemone, lawnmower blenney, 2 fire tail gobies I think they're called, hermit crabs (with the blue tip claws), a long spined urchin (he's not looking so good) and a yellow tang. I have about 10lbs of live rock in a 47US Gallon tank.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:09 AM
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Do you run a skimmer? Sounds like a fair size bio-load and not enough live rock for filtration.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:15 AM
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I have 3 clown fish (2 spp), the green tip polyps, a cleaner shrimp, anemone, lawnmower blenney, 2 fire tail gobies I think they're called, hermit crabs (with the blue tip claws), a long spined urchin (he's not looking so good) and a yellow tang. I have about 10lbs of live rock in a 47US Gallon tank.
So just to confirm from what I have been reading you have

7 fish
4 or 5 inverts not including snails
10 lbs live rock in a 47 gal.

I do have to agree with xtreme with his comment.

xtreme Do you run a skimmer? Sounds like a fair size bio-load and not enough live rock for filtration.

I initially suspected flatworms when you called me earlier today but from your pictures that is not the case or they are not anything I have encountered. Try and explain a little more about the white spots. Are they soft?. Do they come off the glass easy or are they stuck on firm? Do they squish and denigrate when you touch them? Do they move around? etc. Any info would help identify them.

Small frequent water changes are superior to larger water changes (you do not want to stress out everything more)
Run carbon
Set your skimmer up to run wet
Until you are certain what the problem is do not move your fish.
Bring in a water sample to the store and I will run some tests. ( a sample before a water change)
Call the store if you need some advice.

Kevin
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:24 AM
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Your yellow tang needs to go!!! Your tank is too small. I usually don't say that but a 48 is way too small for a yellow tang. Please find a better home for this fish unless you plan to upgrade??
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:58 AM
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Small frequent water changes are superior to larger water changes (you do not want to stress out everything more)
Kevin;

I dont mean to directly dissagree, but in this case, with such high ammonia, a large water change is needed to bring it down. If you do the math it will take 7 water changes at 10% in size to achieve less than .5ppm ammonia (which is still high), while 1 50% waterchange will achieve .5ppm ammonia. (if someone wants to see the math I'll post it)

I only suggest a large water change to get the 'white crud' out, and eliminate the ammonia which I think in this case is a more severe matter than water change stress. Otherwise i would agree.

However, to the OP: Please do not read 'smaller frequent water changes' as 10% once a week, it means 10-25% every day to 3 days. 10% once a week will not make enough of a difference.

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Old 12-10-2009, 04:16 AM
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First if your water changes have not had any afect on the ammonia levels you test kit maybe bad. you should see a deffinit drop in the ammonia level exspecialy if you have done a 25% water change. you could do anouther 10% water change today and every 2-3 days till you find out what is happening. What snails do you have in your tank?
I am asking you this because I have white disk like snail eggs on my glass and rocks and they apear almost over night. I'll try and get a good pic of some and post in this thread. you also said that you have afilm on the water top this could be from the snails sponing and you have extra ditris that is being suspended in the water colume try and redirect your power head so it disterbs the water surfaces see if this helps to clear it up. I get this on my kids tank once in a while you can scoop as much of the floating stuff off the top.
If you have too many snails or there spon is dead it will rase your ammonia level.
don't panic go slow.

I'll check back in a while as I have to go get some shrimp and maybe my fish came in also.
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Old 12-10-2009, 04:32 AM
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I have a skimmer fit for the size of tank and a filter on it, it was ok before with some die offs if I didn't do frequent enough water changes but I've been good about them lately.

The ammonia kit should be ok, I've done tests in the recent past that were zero for ammonia. I don't have any film on the water surface, just the glass and stuff inside the tank under the water. I don't have any snails, other than 2 tiny ones that came with the live rock way back in Feb.

I will keep up with the water changes every few days, the ammonia levels have come down but not by much I'm only panicked because I feel terrible I am killing my fish!

Thanks everyone, I will update in the morning with how the increase salinity, temp and Stability additive for ammonia works out.
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