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Old 03-21-2009, 01:58 AM
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I am sorry that you have taken so much heat over asking a simple question.
There is always more than one way to get a point across. I feel that some people did not handled in a very nice way.
I hope that Diana you will not take those comments to heart. We have all made mistakes in this hobby and I feel that you are very sincere about caring for the fish and doing what is best for them.

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Old 03-21-2009, 02:05 AM
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I'm sure you are a very nice person, and I would much like to meet you some day... heck I'm sure we have been in the same fish stores at the same time without knowing it anyways Us fish people are an odd bunch.


With all due respect however, it almost seems like you ask the questions just to get the negative responses. I think you know what most users are going to say on here anyways... angels eat corals, they are hard to keep, that you are over stocked, that your tank is too new and on and on.

If you think people are being harsh here.. give RC a shot


Anyhow... as far as the angel goes.. sure you can try it if your other half insists.. just don't look for sympathy from the canreefers when it dies.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:30 AM
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I do know I will get the typical answers, but always hope to get something better then that. I did get many replies with help and insight in my PMs so it was worth asking in the first place. I really don't ask to get a negative response, I do ask my friends that are members of canreef and if they don't know, I stand before the firing squad.

I do not want the angel or any other angel for that matter. They are beautiful but if I have had no luck in keeping them now, I don't want to take another chance. My hubby really has had second thoughts as well, but I just wanted to make sure the info was laid out to him in a way he could learn more about the species in general. Yes, at the beginning he brought home some stuff that made me hit the roof, but he didn't know better. I know if he was treated the way I have been treated, he would never come here again and reply on what the LFS says to him I did that once with my puffer and have worked super hard to make him work in my system.

When I ask questions I hope for answers from people whom have experienced what I am asking first hand. There are many mistakes we do make in life (not this hobby) that we were advised against doing, and we did it anyways... Sometimes first hand experience is the best, but I don't take any life lightly. IT is hard to come on here and admit to mistakes or talking about them... however it is part of taking responsibility and owning what we have done.

I believe I missed you at Dave's place when he shut his tank down (you nabbed my corals). If you see a giant lifted black F350 outside the LFS, my hubby and I are in there...

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I'm sure you are a very nice person, and I would much like to meet you some day... heck I'm sure we have been in the same fish stores at the same time without knowing it anyways Us fish people are an odd bunch.


With all due respect however, it almost seems like you ask the questions just to get the negative responses. I think you know what most users are going to say on here anyways... angels eat corals, they are hard to keep, that you are over stocked, that your tank is too new and on and on.

If you think people are being harsh here.. give RC a shot


Anyhow... as far as the angel goes.. sure you can try it if your other half insists.. just don't look for sympathy from the canreefers when it dies.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:15 AM
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When I ask questions I hope for answers from people whom have experienced what I am asking first hand. There are many mistakes we do make in life (not this hobby) that we were advised against doing, and we did it anyways... Sometimes first hand experience is the best, but I don't take any life lightly. IT is hard to come on here and admit to mistakes or talking about them... however it is part of taking responsibility and owning what we have done.
Well said.

Don't stop asking questions and don't stop expecting answers you don't want to hear.
How many new people have been influenced by your questions and by the answers given? If one aquatic life has been influenced positively. You deserve Congratulations.
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:06 AM
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Well said.

Don't stop asking questions and don't stop expecting answers you don't want to hear.
How many new people have been influenced by your questions and by the answers given? If one aquatic life has been influenced positively. You deserve Congratulations.
Kevin
And well put Kevin.

This thread (and the PMs she received) gave an opportunity for 'old salts' to express their frustration in trying to add their experience (they learned the hard way) for the benefit of new reefers.
IMO it also gave an opportunity for new reefers to understand that the 'cautions' we post about unsuitable species and their requirements are not meant to convey a know-it-all attitude but to try to stop unnecessary fish death.
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:08 AM
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Thanks Kevin... I am not afraid to ask questions... I just need to add boxing gloves and a first aid kit with the flame suit next time.

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How many new people have been influenced by your questions and by the answers given? If one aquatic life has been influenced positively. You deserve Congratulations.
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Old 03-21-2009, 02:06 AM
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Hi Calvin, when it comes to pets both furry and scaly, I take whatever heat I need to take when I try to speak on behalf of them all. I do not believe there is such a thing as a stupid question to be honest. If someone is asking it, it is important to them to know the answer... even if it is nobrainer.

It's an ongoing joke between myself and a couple of canreefers about me getting beat up for asking questions... I just keep coming back for moreIf I need to know, I ask. Yes there are some pretty negative responses, but I filter those out and use the information I need to better myself in this hobby in the end.

If my questions benefit my fish I have and the ones in the future it was well worth the trouble and heat. I just worry about other people that are afraid to ask questions because of the flaming and negativity... They could be having problems and are afraid to seek the help that they really need.

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I am sorry that you have taken so much heat over asking a simple question.
There is always more than one way to get a point across. I feel that some people did not handled in a very nice way.
I hope that Diana you will not take those comments to heart. We have all made mistakes in this hobby and I feel that you are very sincere about caring for the fish and doing what is best for them.

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Old 03-21-2009, 05:20 AM
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Hi Diana, to tell you the truth I don't really say much on the forum as I have seen this on a number of occasions and I don’t find it very constructive or positive for anyone new to the hobby. Most of us new to the hobby feel dumb enough at times without it being splattered on the forum.

I have been to Diana & Frank’s and seen all their wonderful pets (baby’s) including the 260g reef that I find just amazing. My wife and I were staring in awe when Diana fed the puffer fish by hand and rubbed his belly! Diana really cares for her pets.

Are we all guilty for bringing fish home on a whim? Without research? Rescue? Someone else might buy her? Hell Ya!!......my wife and I looked at each other in the truck on the way home from the LFS after we bought a Fairy Wrasse.........and I said “do we know what it eats?”........we laughed at the time, but we were two researchers on the internet once we reached home. Does that happen now? No it does not. Why? Because as humans we learn by experience......not always by everything you read or are told. The learning curve for this hobby is pretty much vertical in the beggining .....I think some people that have been at this for a while have forgotten that as it is second nature to them now.

I know some very experienced people here are annoyed at some of us newer to the hobby. But understand that we will all learn different things at different rates at different times......and yes we will all make mistakes........and yes we will all lose that fish we loved.

Please be tolerant of each other. I feel like I don’t know much at all when I come here with the likes of the rest of you......but it is a really great forum, with a lot of really great knowledgeable people. I really enjoy this place for the most part.

Thanks for understanding. Brad


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Well it's great to see the tone of posts changing and for the better, Good luck with your decision

I'd love to see some new pictues of your tank as well!
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Well it's great to see the tone of posts changing and for the better, Good luck with your decision

I'd love to see some new pictues of your tank as well!
The captain who righted the ship!!! Good on you for changing the tone of this thread.

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