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Old 12-08-2008, 11:52 PM
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because they will be a lot cheeper there. probably 1/2 the price. Can you imagin what the shipping and such is here, plus the markup, ect..

you have the mark up from the manufacture to make ther emoney,(they probably sell direct in Germany for that price)
then you have the guy who has the distrubution rights in north america, who ships them in and adds a markup, then you probably have a canadian distrubuter who adds his cut and boarder crossing fees and shipping, then the stores.

It is just like some stuff I bought in Dubai and India, cost me 8 bucks for a carved eliphant from the guy who carved it, I saw something not as good sitting on a shelf in the brick for over 900.00

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BK's are more expensive in Germany.
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Old 12-09-2008, 12:16 AM
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IMO the Bubblekings are very nice but not essential, lots of different skimmers will do the job, a skimmer that costs twice as much does not skim twice as well, but somewhat better. I'm happy with my BK, there are other less expensive choices that do a good job. In the end it comes down to what you want to spend your money on, I will blow money on a few things that are important to me, one of them is stuff for my aquariums.
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:21 AM
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SO bubble king users when you turn off the skimmer does it rattle and hum or does it just start up
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:27 AM
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SO bubble king users when you turn off the skimmer does it rattle and hum or does it just start up
The only sound I have ever heard from my bubbleking is a slight hiss from the air and even then if I don't look at the skimmer I don't know if it is on or not
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Old 12-09-2008, 01:35 AM
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Marie what size do you have again Im looking at the 200 and some people are saying it not really worth the price or heck it is rated for 135-265 gal

i would love to get the 200 SM but its alittle out of my reach
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Marie what size do you have again Im looking at the 200 and some people are saying it not really worth the price or heck it is rated for 135-265 gal

i would love to get the 200 SM but its alittle out of my reach
I have the SM 200 so I can't really comment on the minis. When I bought the SM 200 I was looking for a skimmer that didn't require me to mess with it at all and it is everything I hoped it would be.
I was tired of cheap pieces of junk, I'm no good at diy and I happened to get a great deal on a RC group buy
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Old 12-09-2008, 03:33 AM
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Marie what size do you have again Im looking at the 200 and some people are saying it not really worth the price or heck it is rated for 135-265 gal

i would love to get the 200 SM but its alittle out of my reach
Generation 2 Mini's (what you'll be getting) are rated at a 20% higher capacity than their predecessors.

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SM 250 is 1250 EUR with is over $2000 Canadian. Link

Th vertex skimmers are made in the exact same Chinese factory as Euro Reefs. The pumps are made by Resun, not exactly the best pump makers. I assure you I know a little something about protein skimmers
The Resun pumps on Vertex skimmers are hermetically sealed and free from the corrosion issues of the rebranded Gen-X pumps. Additionally, with the new impeller bearings and shaft, these motors run far quieter than the Sedras.
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The Resun pumps on Vertex skimmers are hermetically sealed and free from the corrosion issues of the rebranded Gen-X pumps. Additionally, with the new impeller bearings and shaft, these motors run far quieter than the Sedras.
I'm not saying these pumps are bad but Resun does not have the best rep but this could change with time. To me they look identical in every way to the gen-x's and sedra's. People in the RC vertex club thread are already talking about switching the resun pump for a sedra. Comparing power as well the resuns seem to be rated at a higher wattage. Not sure why.

The vertex line is new and for the price they seem like a really good deal and I would use one if it fit my budget but I can see problems down the road which is common with any first generation skimmer.

focusing on negatives here but enough to worry me a little.
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resun pumps are the cheapest, crappest pumps avaliable here in thailand they are scarily inefficient and of poor build quality. Just to put them in perspective, they cost peanuts.

Its funny because they are not known in the US really, but they are poor, cheap pumps IME.
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Well, they certianly are....

LOUD!

Oh, well, I guess reefers on a budget will have no problem wearing ear muffs while admiring their reefs.

Another plus is that you no longer have to worry about Dursos or Stockmans or any of those overflow box standpipe silencers. Just let the water fall into your overflow sans standpipe--you'll never hear the crashing water over one of these Resun pumps...!
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A resun pump with 3000 lph output costs approx $17 here - and they break all the time. I would be very concerned about a skimmer which relies on a Resun pump. They make pretty good chillers though.
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SO bubble king users when you turn off the skimmer does it rattle and hum or does it just start up
Maybe you got the U2 Version...?
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Maybe you got the U2 Version...?
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