Ok It's BUBBLE KING REVIEW - Page 4

Doug · #31 12-08-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps

I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, I've just noticed the BKs get a lot of trash talk on this forum and it hasn't started yet on this thread but I'm kind of expecting it to.

Oh, I dont think it will.

albert_dao · #32 12-08-2008, 09:25 PM

... *sigh

sphelps · #33 12-08-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus

yes I agree that the Bubble kings get huge Trash talk ,but why because of the $$$$$$$$$, then why are so many people in Germany screaming about them.

I think German's like fish more than Canadians

Or maybe because the hobby is more advanced over there and experience pays.

Skimmerking · #34 12-08-2008, 10:04 PM

WOW I can't believe that its this hardto make a decision about a skimmer.... man Im starting to get a head ache. about it

StirCrazy · #35 12-08-2008, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps

The vertex is Proline's answer to their issue with euro reef, it's the exact same skimmer except they added a diffuser chamber which was a good addition. However the collection cup attaches by a gland seal o-ring which makes removing the collection cup a real PITA and a recipe for skimmate spill. If you're looking for a good skimmer in a $400 budget it's a good choice but I wouldn't go any further.

I have a vertex and I think the "o" ring is the best thing sence sliced bread. real easy to remove and reinstall, less chance of spillage that twist off tops.

there is a lot more to the Vertex than just a bubble chamber and the "O" ring cup system, take a good look at one, better pump, different entrance high for the pump discharge and a few other little tweaks. I know the bubble king is a good skimmer, but I don't think it is enough of a differance to justify 850.00 more. needle wheel pumps are great, after having becket and venturi, both of which would make just as good of bubble as any needlewheel skimmer out there, I will never go back. the best thing about needle wheel in my opinion is the lack of maintance of the bubble producer.

I have got as far as to rething the custom skimmer I am building for my big tank I am setting up when I retire next year, to change it from dual venturi to duel or (maybe 3) good needle wheel pumps as I figure this skimmer will handle 600 gal easy.

If you want to see a knock off of the euroreef look at Pacific coast skimmers, the Vertex only uses the body in common, everything else is different.

Steve

StirCrazy · #36 12-08-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by asmodeus

hey Steve I'm just looking at the vertex skimmer, its the same skimmer like the Euro reef but with the sedra pumps

not a sedra pump from everything I have been reading, it is one that was real good but concidered noisey, they did somethign with the shaft and such to quiet it down and made there own special intake for the air to be drawn in. I have seen a few of them in action now and I am totaly impressed. But, find out if anyone has one around you and take a look, the body is the same as the euro reef, but thats where it stops from what I have seen in mine and others.

Steve

StirCrazy · #37 12-08-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sphelps

I think German's like fish more than Canadians

Or maybe because the hobby is more advanced over there and experience pays.

because they will be a lot cheeper there. probably 1/2 the price. Can you imagin what the shipping and such is here, plus the markup, ect..

you have the mark up from the manufacture to make ther emoney,(they probably sell direct in Germany for that price)
then you have the guy who has the distrubution rights in north america, who ships them in and adds a markup, then you probably have a canadian distrubuter who adds his cut and boarder crossing fees and shipping, then the stores.

It is just like some stuff I bought in Dubai and India, cost me 8 bucks for a carved eliphant from the guy who carved it, I saw something not as good sitting on a shelf in the brick for over 900.00

Steve

blaster · #38 12-08-2008, 11:13 PM

With a bubbleking you get low power consumption and quiet operation.I have a supermarine 250 and like it lots.They are expensive,but are built to last.

albert_dao · #39 12-08-2008, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by StirCrazy

because they will be a lot cheeper there. probably 1/2 the price. Can you imagin what the shipping and such is here, plus the markup, ect..

you have the mark up from the manufacture to make ther emoney,(they probably sell direct in Germany for that price)
then you have the guy who has the distrubution rights in north america, who ships them in and adds a markup, then you probably have a canadian distrubuter who adds his cut and boarder crossing fees and shipping, then the stores.

It is just like some stuff I bought in Dubai and India, cost me 8 bucks for a carved eliphant from the guy who carved it, I saw something not as good sitting on a shelf in the brick for over 900.00

Steve

BK's are more expensive in Germany.

trilinearmipmap · #40 12-09-2008, 12:16 AM

IMO the Bubblekings are very nice but not essential, lots of different skimmers will do the job, a skimmer that costs twice as much does not skim twice as well, but somewhat better. I'm happy with my BK, there are other less expensive choices that do a good job. In the end it comes down to what you want to spend your money on, I will blow money on a few things that are important to me, one of them is stuff for my aquariums.