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Old 12-04-2008, 04:56 AM
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Dude I keep fresh water planted tanks for 12 years and have scientific facts to prove me right. Show me your data,you seriouslly believe that overstocking a tank will cure cyano? better yet do you believe this is best way to go about it? Believe me if I didnt know what I was talking about I wouldnt say a damn thing.
Are you saying im wrong?
ahaha I love it... here we go again with the "are you calling me a liar? Like seriously dude I've been on this earth for 12 years I think I know what I'm talking about, and if you don't believe me ask my dad." ahahah

The 12 year old: Are you calling me a liar?

Other person: I don't know... are you calling me a liar?

The 12 year old: I wouldn't say anything if I didn't think it was right

Other Person: Ditto

The 12 year old: I have scientific facts

Other person: Ditto

The 12 year old: Show me your facts

Other person: Ditto

I mean if you want to argue at the very least try and go about it in a more productive way... just because you threaten someone with the terrible idea of calling you a liar your point isn't anymore proven.

And if you want to get technical... when people disagree they are technically calling you a liar and the are calling you wrong... get over it and carry on the discussion so you, or possibly they, can learn something.
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Old 12-04-2008, 05:14 PM
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ahaha I love it... here we go again with the "are you calling me a liar? Like seriously dude I've been on this earth for 12 years I think I know what I'm talking about, and if you don't believe me ask my dad." ahahah

The 12 year old: Are you calling me a liar?

Other person: I don't know... are you calling me a liar?

The 12 year old: I wouldn't say anything if I didn't think it was right

Other Person: Ditto

The 12 year old: I have scientific facts

Other person: Ditto

The 12 year old: Show me your facts

Other person: Ditto

I mean if you want to argue at the very least try and go about it in a more productive way... just because you threaten someone with the terrible idea of calling you a liar your point isn't anymore proven.

And if you want to get technical... when people disagree they are technically calling you a liar and the are calling you wrong... get over it and carry on the discussion so you, or possibly they, can learn something.
Where are you getting this? I'm asking if he thinks my method is wrong,and asking for his info so that I can learn. I was also offering to give my info if he wanted. The problem with the internet is you can interpret me anyway you want,I'm pretty sure your taking me the wrong way. I don't know why I bother.
P.S I'm a grown man lol
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Old 12-04-2008, 06:31 PM
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I LOVE IT. hmmm what oh i have been swimming in raw sewage all day "I LOVE IT"

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Old 12-04-2008, 10:45 AM
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Dude I keep fresh water planted tanks for 12 years and have scientific facts to prove me right.
Dude, I've been keeping fish for over 30+ years (fw since 1976 & sw since 1984) and I have 9 years at UBC studying aquaculture. Yet, I still don't know everything about fish.

Fish-keeping is still as much an art as it is a science.

What works for one, may not work for another. Telling people that they are idiots because they don't agree with you is not necessarily a good way to convince someone. As others have mentioned on this thread, there are several varieties of cyanobacteria, algae & other similar organisms. Some do great under one set of parameters (ie. low Nitrogen) while others need different parameters to bloom (ie. high nutrient levels). Therefore, what might stop the problem in one person's tank may not help in someone elses, simply because its a different strain of cyano.

While many reefers use RODI for their tanks, almost no fw aquarist does. Especially for planted tanks, since serious planted tank keepers add all sorts of fertilizers, CO2, etc. to their systems to help the plants thrive under high light. I keep both fw & sw & have only ever made RODI water for my reef tanks, never for my fw tanks. Don't even know anybody locally who uses it for their fw or fw planted tanks & I know a lot of local aquarists. I can see it helping in areas that use well water or the water is very alkaline & they need soft or neutral water for their fw tanks, but I'm not sure whether Victoria's water supply (where the OP is from) is bad enough to require RODI.

Just wondering if you use RODI water on your planted tanks in Surrey, since that's what you're recommending for the OP? I find it enough of a PITA making enough RODI water for my sw, let alone bothering with it for the fw tanks. Surrey's on that water metering system now so that must get expensive with all that wastewater produced by the filtration system. Wasting water is one major drawback of using RODI.

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Old 12-04-2008, 04:50 PM
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Wow. Ok first no I never used ro/di on a freshwater planted tank except while successfully curing cyano.
Second the suggestion he had made was to overstock his tank surelly in all of EVERYONES vast experience this increases amonia to a lethal level in freshwater.
Do you really think overstocking your bio load is a better cure for a newbie than simplly cleaning your tank and running carbon,a perfectlly safe method which many have had success with including myself.

And lastlly I did'nt say that fella was calling me a liar,merelly answering to the fact that I do infact have a clue what I'm talking about.


Hey maybe overstocking can work, perhaps I'm wrong about that,I can admit sure. But I still dont think its a practical approach particularilly for a beginner when a perfectlly safe tried and true method works.

Take a deep breath.....
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