JDigitals 10G "Hawaiian Biotope".

Pan · #1 11-18-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital

The room its in stays at a fairly consistent temp, as for salinity, I manually top-off religously everyday to keep it stable (even if its only a small amount). Once I do my tests, I'll know for sure if it was a mini cycle that nuked everything, and if thats what it was, shame on me for not testing before purchasing this weekend.

I feel for ya, my imperator angel juvy just died today....3 days i had him. looks like some lesions on him, but i am not sure. it always sucks when something dies, first new fish i have added in like 5 months. and well..

michika · #2 11-18-2008, 01:02 AM

Sorry to hear this.

JDigital · #3 11-18-2008, 01:12 AM

Thanks...

Test results.

Elos PH: 8.3
Elos NH3/4: 0
Elos NO3: 0
NO2: No Kit
Salinity 1.026 (refractometer)
Temp: 26-27C

Doesn't look like anything is out of wack.. So I am at a completely loss... neither fish had any ick that I could see. Both were eating well (for what that's worth over the course of 48hrs)...

sphelps · #4 11-18-2008, 01:18 AM

You need to test NO2, that would have been my guess from the start as the problem.

JDigital · #5 11-18-2008, 01:44 AM

Anyone in the NW have an Elos NO2 test kit??

superduperwesman · #6 11-18-2008, 03:57 AM

That really suck. Sorry to hear that... I think I will be taking things really slow

JDigital · #7 11-20-2008, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JDigital

Thanks...

Test results.

Elos PH: 8.3
Elos NH3/4: 0
Elos NO3: 0
NO2: No Kit
Salinity 1.026 (refractometer)
Temp: 26-27C

Doesn't look like anything is out of wack.. So I am at a completely loss... neither fish had any ick that I could see. Both were eating well (for what that's worth over the course of 48hrs)...

Elos NO2: 0.00 - 0.02

Pretty hard to tell the difference... but its not above 0.02 (by my eye)

sphelps · #8 11-20-2008, 01:31 AM

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Elos NO2: 0.00 - 0.02

Pretty hard to tell the difference... but its not above 0.02 (by my eye)

Could have dropped back down in the last couple days. I would definitely say that was the issue. Waste wasn't introduced to spike a proper cycle and as a result insufficient bacteria was present when the fish were added and you got a little nitrite spike.

I would try adding some food or better yet some protein skim to the tank and measure your nitrite over the next few days, if it stays at zero you'll be good.

JDigital · #9 11-20-2008, 01:36 AM

Sand was fully Live when added.. and the tank would have had a solid 3 weeks to seed from the sand... Inverts were added end of 3rd week... I think there was enough to build up the proper cycle.

Ah well...

sphelps · #10 11-20-2008, 02:26 AM

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Sand was fully Live when added.. and the tank would have had a solid 3 weeks to seed from the sand... Inverts were added end of 3rd week... I think there was enough to build up the proper cycle.

Live sand may help a cycle by supplying some bacteria but it's not enough and a cycle can take up to 6 weeks. You obviously had the right bacteria in there I just don't think enough was built up to support two fish at once. Remember it's a 10 gallon tank, it's the same as adding 10 fish at once to a new 50 gallon. Seems obvious to me what the issue was. Hermit crabs will survive almost anything and they can't supply enough waist to produce the bacteria needed for fish.
Not trying to argue here, just get to the bottom of your issue. I mean what else could it be?