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Old 08-26-2008, 03:46 PM
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I guess I was lucky but maybe all the brushes and scrubbing like crazy lady had alot to do with it.
Also I forgot to mention that most of the rocks were put back upside down. Also some of the rocks got second scrubbing in the second bucket because the water was so green/brown and fuzzy that I couldn't see if there was more to take off so once in the second bucket, if I saw more hairy patches, it would get another once over and by the time they got to the clean water bucket they were perfect.
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Woohoo!! My first sticky on this forum!

I added some info near the top of the Guide about detritus...thanks to kwirky for (unintentionally) reminding me! I will likely add more and more to this Guide as I remember little bits and pieces.
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congratulations! but what about dino? I guess it should be included as well.

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Old 11-08-2010, 05:32 PM
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Dinos are not an algae (neither is cyano), and the treatment isn't the same as the rest (cyano is treated like algae). This guide was originally for hair algae at a time when there seemed to be TONS of people having hair algae issues, so it was easier to write this than answer the same question day after day. I added cyano and diatoms to the list simply because they are treated the same way as hair algae.

I could add a section for dinos. That's easy enough. I don't have time to do that today, but hopefully tomorrow. I will have to change the title of the thread!
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cyano is a bacteria right??


in what catagory would dinoflagellate be classified??

dinoflagellate:any of numerous one-celled aquatic organisms bearing two dissimilar flagellae and having characteristics of both plants and animals. Most are microscopic and marine. Botanists place them in the algal division Pyrrophyta, and zoologists claim them as members of the protozoan order Dinoflagellida. Dinoflagellates range in size from about 5 to 2,000 micrometres (0.0002 to 0.08 inch). Nutrition among dinoflagellates is plantlike, animal-like, or mixed; some species are parasitic or commensal. About one-half of the species are photosynthetic, but even among these many are also predatory.


i always put them in the same class as algae but i knew cyano wasnt but i didnt know that dino's werent hummmlearn something new everyday

ive always been under the impression that when dino's takeover your tank its very hard to get rid of , my friend last year had his tank completely run with it and it nearly broke him down i think he has taken down his tank since then and never did get rid of it completely ive been lucky and have not had to deal with it yet...knock on wood lol
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I know it's a dinoflagellates but it should be in the same topic as algae as it is a common problem with similar effects as algae and often confused for algae. I mean there should be some inclusion in a sticy threat for dino and cyano as well, otherwise if the person's problem is not an algae, he or she will be on a dead end with this thread. Or maybe another new thread for dino and cyano but that would be more confusing I would think since most people put all of these in the same bag.

Just my thoughts.

Reefwars: From what I read there are a few strains of dino and some react really bad to high PH and some are not affected. I got rid of mine in 3 days gone for 4 months now, never saw it again. Honestly it is easy to treat that way, does not affect the other creatures in the aquarium if done slowly and a PH of 8.4 is not that drastic, but it was enough for me. You might want to tell your friend to try that and see if it work for him. I am 100% positive on the ID on mine because I have a microscope and use it to ID everything I can before treating. Mine looked like little grain of corn. Under the microscope, the cyano look very very much like a hair algae!



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Dinos are not an algae (neither is cyano), and the treatment isn't the same as the rest (cyano is treated like algae). This guide was originally for hair algae at a time when there seemed to be TONS of people having hair algae issues, so it was easier to write this than answer the same question day after day. I added cyano and diatoms to the list simply because they are treated the same way as hair algae.

I could add a section for dinos. That's easy enough. I don't have time to do that today, but hopefully tomorrow. I will have to change the title of the thread!

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Reefwars: From what I read there are a few strains of dino and some react really bad to high PH and some are not affected. I got rid of mine in 3 days gone for 4 months now, never saw it again. Honestly it is easy to treat that way, does not affect the other creatures in the aquarium if done slowly and a PH of 8.4 is not that drastic, but it was enough for me. You might want to tell your friend to try that and see if it work for him. I am 100% positive on the ID on mine because I have a microscope and use it to ID everything I can before treating. Mine looked like little grain of corn. Under the microscope, the cyano look very very much like a hair algae![/quote]


i think he has sold his tank now this was last year

i really need to invest in a microscope , i was never that good at biology but am finding alot of it very interesting now adays, i was always a fish person but since starting reeftanks i wish i had of paid better attention in school lol

and i agree that a different thread would probably confuse people and when someone has these problems they usually look in the algae problems catagory

i find all this so fasinating now its a shame i didnt when i was younger
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I know it's a dinoflagellates but it should be in the same topic as algae as it is a common problem with similar effects as algae and often confused for algae. I mean there should be some inclusion in a sticy threat for dino and cyano as well, otherwise if the person's problem is not an algae, he or she will be on a dead end with this thread. Or maybe another new thread for dino and cyano but that would be more confusing I would think since most people put all of these in the same bag.

Just my thoughts.

Reefwars: From what I read there are a few strains of dino and some react really bad to high PH and some are not affected. I got rid of mine in 3 days gone for 4 months now, never saw it again. Honestly it is easy to treat that way, does not affect the other creatures in the aquarium if done slowly and a PH of 8.4 is not that drastic, but it was enough for me. You might want to tell your friend to try that and see if it work for him. I am 100% positive on the ID on mine because I have a microscope and use it to ID everything I can before treating. Mine looked like little grain of corn. Under the microscope, the cyano look very very much like a hair algae!

just out of curiosity where i have never had to treat for dino's do you raise the ph during the night when its low? or do you just gradually raise it during the day and i know it has to be down slowly to prevent ph shock thans
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with that stuff it raise the ph during the day. At least that's what I did and only to 8.4 and amazingly it did the job fast and for good.

I am not sure if this stuff was able to keep the ph at 8.4 at night but at night I think the dino does not multiply. I also used a little hang on tank Marinland filter with a micron cartridge. That was to catch any free swimming dino.

I did not need to use a lot of that stuff to raise my ph in my 75 gallons. I was going to raise it to 8.5 but when I saw the dino disapearing I just kept the ph at that.


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