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![]() New info - DINOFLAGELLATES!
This guide would also be effective for diatoms and cyanobacteria, and pretty much any sw algae. In the case of cyanobacteria you would siphon out as much as possible on each water change (it sucks out easily) instead of pruning it. In the case of diatoms you don't need to disturb them. Whatever the case is (aside from diatoms), manually remove as much of the algae as possible during water changes. Remember that diatoms are the first sign of trouble, and will lead to more noxious types of algae if the problem isn't rectified. Hair algae. HA. Hell's Angel? How about Hell's devil?! ![]() I don't care if your tank is 3 months old or 3 years old. The possible causes are the same. New tank syndrome? That's diatoms. ONLY diatoms. Don't let others fool you. ![]() So, here's a guide to help you rid your tank of HA. Alrighty...let's start at the start. What causes HA? Excess nutrients. Simple. Simple? Ya, not quite...where did those darn nutrients come from? Keep on reading... The predominant nutrients that cause most of any algae issues are phosphate and nitrate. Go test your tank. Is phosphate reading zero? Nitrate probably is too...or at least very close. I bet they are! That's because you can only test the water column, and that dang HA is feeding off of it, and sucking it out of the water column so your test kits can't test for it. So don't be fooled! Now, first thing first. Mow that stupid HA down!!! Turn off all the pumps in your tank, get out your siphon hose (use just the hose not gravel vac end), get out your scissors, and give the HA the shortest brush cut you can, and be sure to suck all the loose bits out too, eh? ![]() Use a turkey baster to blow the detritus off your rocks once or twice a day while you're battling HA. If you have so much HA that you aren't done brush cutting it by the time you've sucked out 75% of the water, then fill the tank back up, and carry on again in a day or two. Make sure you aerate the fresh saltwater for 24 hours before you use it and always match temperature and salinity during water changes, especially large ones. Keep up on regular weekly water changes (10-25%). Give that HA a good brush cut every time you do a water change, and suck out all the detritus from the rocks and on the sand. If you're repetitively finding lots of detritus you need to rearrange your power heads, replace them with bigger power heads, or add another power head. Half the point of power heads if to keep the detritus from settling. Your filter/skimmer can't get the detritus if it's settled on your rocks or sand bed. Make sure there are no dead spots in your circulation for detritus to settle. Oh...you're making fresh saltwater? Where are you getting your water from? The tap? Oi! Probably full of phosphate! The grocery store or water store? Check their inline TDS meter before buying, and be sure it is at least 5 ppm or less. Test your source water for phosphate and nitrate. If you're already buying from the grocery store, then you need to look at buying an RO unit. By the way, 1 ppm of phosphate is A LOT for a reef tank. Nooooo good. Phosphate should be undetectable both in the reef and the source water using a typical Salifert or Elos regular sensitivity kit. The best option for a reef tank is to use a 4 stage (or better) RO/DI unit. When buying a RO/DI system buy a hand held or inline digital TDS meter and calibration fluid at the same time. Buy sodium chloride or potassium chloride calibration fluid that is similar to the TDS of your tap water ie 342 ppm. Distilled water is not suitable as calibration fluid. Use your TDS meter every time you use the RO/DI system. Your TDS should be zero. Not 1 ppm, not 2 ppm. ZERO. The first time it pops up to 1 you need to replace some cartridges, but that's a different subject! Buying an RO/DI not feasible? Save your pennies...in my opinion, not having an RO/DI unit is like not putting salt into your reef. It just doesn't work too well. ![]() What's the calcium, alkalinity, and magnesium at in your reef? Calcium should be 380-440 ppm, alkalinity 7-12 dKH, magnesium ~1350 ppm. These numbers are for 1.024-6 specific gravity. Low or unstable alkalinity encourages algae growth, as does low magnesium. And Calcium? Without calcium your corals and decorative coralline algae won't grow very well. Coralline algae helps to prevent nuisance algae growths. Be sure to test your water change water before you add it to the tank and add calcium, alkalinity, and magnesium if it needs it. Test your water change water at the proper salinity too, eh? ![]() Ok, I think we have the water figured out. Now, what are YOU unintentionally doing to compromise the success of your reef? Is your tank overstocked? Most peoples' tanks are. Oh, and you're probably overfeeding. Or using poor feeding methods. Every time you feed your fish you are adding phosphate to your tank, so you want to minimize this as much as possible obviously! Cut your feeding back to HALF the amount, but be sure to feed once a day, no less, no more. Fish need to be fed everyday, their digestive systems are too small to get fed less, but cut down the amount you're giving them by half. They won't notice. When you feed, don't just dump it all in and walk away. Add a little bit, then a bit more as they eat up the first bit. Make sure you never dump enough in there that it hits the sand. It should never hit the sand. If it does you're feeding too much. Have a Jawfish or Goby that doesn't come up for feedings? Use a turkey baster or some such thing to get the food directly down to him. He'll get used to it, but try not to show the other fish what you're doing with that turkey baster because they're a pain in the butt if they start following it down. When you feed frozen food, all that juice is like a phosphate drink! Thaw frozen food in a little cup with RO water or tank water (not tap water). Once it has thawed pour the water down the drain before feeding. You don't want that thawed food juice in your tank. I use a tea strainer, works like a charm and cheap too. So you have heard about those TLF PhosBan reactors I bet? Go get one. Period. You'll thank me later. ![]() ![]() We're gonna be safe and assume there is a lot of phosphate in your water, so add about 1 mL GFO per gallon of water in your reef. In 3 weeks add another 1 mL/gal to the existing media. In another 3 weeks (6 weeks total) dispose of all the old media. Refill with 2 mL of fresh GFO per gallon and let it run for 6 weeks. Dispose of old GFO and refill with 3 mL GFO per gallon and let that run for 6 weeks. Usually 3 mL GFO per gallon is a good maintenance amount, but some people use significantly more. You will learn when you have to change it out because you will start to see some algae growing usually on the front glass is the first sign, and adjust the amount of GFO you use so that you can change it every 4-6 weeks. Be sure to rinse all new GFO in RO/DI water until it runs clear. Alternatively, you can put it in the reactor without rinsing and catch the first gallon or so of dirty water that comes out when you plug it in. Don't let that dirty water get into your reef! GFO in reator = good, GFO in tank = bad. Adjust the reactor so that the very top bit of the GFO is "boiling" very gently, just a bit of movement. The more contact time the better it works. Ok, so maybe you have a big refugium? Well, get off your butt, and fill that fuge with chaeto instead of rubble and sand! Use a powerhead to make the chaeto roll in the water. I call this a chaeto chamber in the sump instead of a refugium since refugiums tend to have rubble, sand, etc which tend to impede the rolling of the chaeto. The chaeto needs to roll freely for best results. Trim it when it gets too snug to roll. Light the crap out of it (try some clip on lamps with household spiral compact fluorescent bulbs around 55-6500K), and pray to your god for that chaeto to absorb all the phosphate from your water!!! ![]() Now...those lights of yours. When's the last time you changed the bulbs? ![]() To help this battle along I've got another idea. Boiling water. The age old friend. I mean who doesn't like some nice hot water? HA doesn't! Get that water boiling strong, grab a syringe, suck some boiling water up, run to your tank quickly, and spray a good jet of boiling water right in the midst of your HA. Be careful not to spray any of your corals...they don't like boiling water either. ![]() Ok, you've tried everything...it's been a few months, and you're still brush cutting that HA. Now it's time for the big guns. If you have the Bryopsis type of HA (it's feathery unlike Derbesia which is grassy or like a green cotton ball), then this will work. If you have Derbesia, this won't work. Get yourself some Kent brand liquid magnesium. The Kent brand works best. It's cheap, don't worry. ![]() A more advanced approach to algae control is to use a nutrient reduction system like ZEOvit, Fauna Marin, Prodibio, etc. If you decide to use these systems, according to the manufacturers you should not use GFO. Zeovit suggests you can use Coral Snow and ZEObak on their own to help with cyano outbreaks, but according to CanReefers this method isn't very effective. You would have better results using the full nutrient reduction systems. A new product on the market is BioPellets available in several different brands. I have not personally used these, and I have read many mixed reviews. I'm not sold on this product yet, but await to see what future reviews it will get. If it's persistent after all this, then maybe you need to consider "cooking" your live rock (see link below). It is definitely possible that your live rock is leaching phosphate and/or nitrate from die off at some point in its life, and the easiest way to battle that is to remove it all and cook it. This is extreme - last resort sort of thing though. Btw, cooking does not involve the stove! ![]() Another option would be to consider vodka dosing. Check out this link for more information: http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2008-08/nftt/index.php Dinoflagellates: See post #5 in this thread for information on dinoflagellates. ![]() --------------------------------------- Related links: A Guide - Live Rock; Curing & Cooking, and Tank Cycling Bryopsis: ![]() Bryopsis: ![]() Derbesia sp. (regular hair algae) ![]() Dinoflagellates. Easily confused with diatoms. Notice the stringiness and bubbles: ![]() Diatoms: ![]() Green cyanobacteria: ![]() Red cyanobacteria: ![]() Last edited by Myka; 11-18-2010 at 01:53 AM. Reason: Updated. |
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![]() Bravo! Well done. Someone nominate this women For a "sticky".
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![]() Control P!
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![]() Excellent writeup. I vote for a sticky too
Now can you do one for diatoms???? |
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![]() Since I am limited to 15,000 characters per post I have to continue with Dinoflagellates here.
Dinoflagellates: Dinoflagellates can be difficult to identify because they come in many colors. Generally, the description would be "snotty" or "gooey". They usually have air bubbles in them, which is probably the best stab at an ID you can take. In the life Kingdoms, dinoflagellates don't fall into any of the four typical Kingdoms (animal, plant, fungi, bacteria), they are of a weird Kingdom called Protist. This group isn't well defined, and I would have a tough time describing. There are many different types of dinos from parasitic to symbiotic. In fact, zooxanthallae are a type of dino. If you live on the coast you have probably heard of "Red Tide" which refers to a time when dinos have infected the areas shellfish and made them toxic to eat. So, you have Dinos. Most of the time in our reefs the nuisance dinos we get feed off nutrients and light and most of them release toxins as they reproduce to impede or kill corals and invertebrates. If you have dinos you should be sure to use lots of carbon to help absorb these toxins. Using the methods described above to lower nutrients is a good place to start - paying particular attention to phosphate. GFO will be a powerful opponent to the dinos. Siphoning of the dinos everyday will also help, as well as adding a filter sock (of the smallest micron you can find) to catch the little bits that come off. Since dinos are also fairly dependent on light you can reduce the photoperiod or even leave the lights off on FO or FOWLR tanks. If you are really having trouble getting rid of the dinos you can try elevating the pH. It seems that some people have had success battling dinos this way, but not all have. The tactic is to raise pH to 8.4-8.6 and hold it there until the dinos recede. Even if they do recede it may or may not be a cure. You can raise pH by using commercially available pH buffers like "pH Up" or by using kalkwasser. Be careful to raise pH slowly, and test frequently to make sure you don't go too high as a pH greater than 8.6 will often cause stress to your tank's inhabitants. It will be tough to keep pH high with chemicals when it wants to naturally fall lower. You will have to test a few times per day, and probably dose a few times per day or more to keep the pH steadily elevated. I suggest the use of a calibrated digital pH meter since test kits are notoriously inaccurate and difficult to use for this repeated application. This method can take several weeks to work and is usually a real pain in the butt to do which is why I suggest nutrient reduction first. Some people luck out, and have a real easy time getting rid of the dinos with an elevated pH though, so it's worth a try if all else fails! --------------------------------------- Original thread: Thanks for the comments everyone. ![]() It would be pretty much the same. Diatoms should flush themselves out on their own though if it's a new setup. If it's an older setup, then you need to look at your nutrients. Diatoms in an older setup are your first indicator that something is a miss. Fix it before it turns into something bigger. In a nano tank is could be something as simple as a large snail dying without you noticing to scoop it out. Or it could be your first sign of overfeeding. Or it could be a sign that you haven't been checking your source water. Anything above could lead to diatoms too. This guide is pretty good for HA, diatoms, and cyanobacteria. However, I am no master of the dratted Valonia... *grumble* I'm very bitter about this. ![]() Last edited by Myka; 11-18-2010 at 02:03 AM. |
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![]() Myka, always a joy to read what you have to say! Another vote for a sticky!!
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![]() Excellent read. Thanks!
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![]() I agree with EVERYTHING Myka wrote about HA and how to get rid of it.... except the snipping and shaving. I'm way too lazy for that!
![]() I had HA all over my tank, it was horrible, ugly, annoying, everywhere. My solution was a bit more drastic though but I had overnight success! I have a 90 gallon tank so I did a 24g W/C. I kept all the old water. I put 12g into two 6 gallon buckets. Then I had 2 -24g rubbermaids with the rest of the water divided between them. I also had a 6g bucket of new water. What I did was I gathered a bunch of different brushes, nail brush, toothbrush etc... Then I took out the coral and placed them in one of the rubbermaids. Then I took out every affected rock (HA is usually only on exposed surfaces so the rocks under the top layer were fine) and brushed it vigorously under water in one of the 6g buckets with old water, then I swished it around, then I swished it in the second 6g bucket and then finally in the 6g bucket of clean water, then placed it in the second rubbermaid. Repeat this until you've done all the affected rocks. Rebuild the tank and voila! Your tank will be cloudy for a day or so but if you control the rest of the problems, (nittrate, phosphate etc...) it will be the end of the HA! It's been at least 6 months since I did this and still no sign of HA! ![]()
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![]() Thanks for the comments guys! Now, when newbies ask about algae issues we can direct them here instead of writing everything out again and again. Or as has been the case lately, people with algae issues aren't receiving much for replies.
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![]() I guess I was lucky but maybe all the brushes and scrubbing like crazy lady had alot to do with it.
Also I forgot to mention that most of the rocks were put back upside down. Also some of the rocks got second scrubbing in the second bucket because the water was so green/brown and fuzzy that I couldn't see if there was more to take off so once in the second bucket, if I saw more hairy patches, it would get another once over and by the time they got to the clean water bucket they were perfect.
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