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Old 03-23-2008, 09:26 PM
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CANADIANS FOR EFFECTIVE ANIMAL CRUELTY LEGISLATION

Pan Canadian rallies are now confirmed Sunday March 30th, 1:00 PM in 5 cities: Montreal, Calgary, Toronto, Vancouver and Ottawa!

We have one week to pull off a miracle. Our mission is the communicate and educate why politicians need to SAY NO to Conservative Bill S-203. Canadians want strong animal protection legislation and S-203 is not it. Our first task is to ensure Canadian politicians and the Canadian public understand S-203 needs to be defeated BEFORE we can hope to bring in C-373 or any iteration thereof.S-203 is weak, flawed and ineffective: what good are increased penalties for animal abuse if SPCAs can't successfully prosecute animal abuse under the Criminal Code? According to SPCAs, less than 1% of animal abuse complaints lead to cruelty convictions and S-203 does nothing to address the loopholes and weaknesses in the Criminal Code that make it an ineffective tool for prosecuting animal crimes. We are therefore asking politicians to vote down S-203 and commit to bringing in effective and meaningful legislation. (thank you again WSPA). There is no point in banging our drums about C-373 until S-203 is defeated.

http://www.e-activist.com/ea-campaign/clientcampaign.do?ea.client.id=23&ea.campaign.id=2 56

When you send this email, you will receive a message with the letter that you can sign and mail as well.

Better still, CALL your MP - they don't understand what the big deal is - everyone thinks S-203 is better than nothing. Again, if this goes through, animals will be no better off than they are today, an it'll take another twenty years for changes to it. This is no time to get comfortable on the subject - we must raise attention to the seriousness of the timing on this issue. March 31st, everyone's back In-House, and S-203 is scheduled for fast tracking! come one, come all, for the animals.

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Old 03-23-2008, 10:01 PM
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OK you've sent out a form letter about something I'm sort of interested in. I'm too lazy to research the subject. How about you explain to me what this bill does to further animal welfare causes. How many extra employees the government will be able to employ to put it into effect. How many tax dollars it will soak up? Why a lobby group based outside Canada is being allowed to have input into our legislative system? How vague is the language in the bill? Does it allow charges to be laid against farmers with a sick chicken or cow? Does it consider altering the animals as cruelty (dehorning)? Does a coral dying in a tank due to neglect mean charges can be laid? Please provide some more info if you want me to call my MP. I'm a typical Canadian too lazy to research, I like to just jump on the soap box.

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Old 03-23-2008, 10:41 PM
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You can find out more about the bills here, there are several good links.

http://www.calgaryhumane.ca/

Actually, this is a more direct link to the info on the two bills:

http://cfhs.ca/law/differences_betwe...e_legislation/

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Old 03-23-2008, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the links EmilyB

Canadian Federation of Humane Societies wants to ban "ALL" exotic species imported into Canada. That's just a start. Better start getting rid of your tanks and animals now. I don't think I'll be calling to lend support to your group.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:26 PM
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I've been doing more reading and I still can't support your group. They are trying to equate animals to humans in one section. I'm sorry I don't agree. Animals are not humans and they never will be.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:31 PM
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Canadian Federation of Humane Societies wants to ban "ALL" exotic species imported into Canada.
Link please ?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:35 PM
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Hillbilly, this isn't about supporting a group, this is about a law that allows people to get away with dragging dogs behind their car. It certainly isn't only supported by this one group of people.
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You can find out more about the bills here, there are several good links.

http://www.calgaryhumane.ca/

Actually, this is a more direct link to the info on the two bills:

http://cfhs.ca/law/differences_betwe...e_legislation/

Side note here...Ever read Peter Singer?
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:27 AM
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http://cfhs.ca/info/companion_animals/
Position statement
CFHS is opposed to the trade or keeping of wild or exotic animals as pets.

Definitions
A wild or exotic animal is any animal, native or non-native to Canada, that has not been subject to domestication through many generations of selective and controlled breeding and thereby adapted to living in close association with humans.

According to the documents on the website it's already illegal to drag dogs behind a car.
Maybe the authorities should be more diligent with their investigations and they'd win more. Passing rules just for the sake of having more of the same rules makes little sense to me.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:37 AM
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That's the whole point, they are NOT the same rules. Please view the PDF file "Animal Cruelty Amendments at a Glance" at the link I provided which outlines this.

Peter Singer is WAAAAAYYY over my head I'm afraid.

I just wanted to make people aware of the bill. What they do beyond that is none of my concern.
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