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Old 03-23-2008, 11:06 PM
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Thanks for the links EmilyB

Canadian Federation of Humane Societies wants to ban "ALL" exotic species imported into Canada. That's just a start. Better start getting rid of your tanks and animals now. I don't think I'll be calling to lend support to your group.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:26 PM
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I've been doing more reading and I still can't support your group. They are trying to equate animals to humans in one section. I'm sorry I don't agree. Animals are not humans and they never will be.
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:31 PM
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Canadian Federation of Humane Societies wants to ban "ALL" exotic species imported into Canada.
Link please ?
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Old 03-23-2008, 11:35 PM
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Hillbilly, this isn't about supporting a group, this is about a law that allows people to get away with dragging dogs behind their car. It certainly isn't only supported by this one group of people.
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Old 03-24-2008, 12:27 AM
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http://cfhs.ca/info/companion_animals/
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CFHS is opposed to the trade or keeping of wild or exotic animals as pets.

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A wild or exotic animal is any animal, native or non-native to Canada, that has not been subject to domestication through many generations of selective and controlled breeding and thereby adapted to living in close association with humans.

According to the documents on the website it's already illegal to drag dogs behind a car.
Maybe the authorities should be more diligent with their investigations and they'd win more. Passing rules just for the sake of having more of the same rules makes little sense to me.
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That's the whole point, they are NOT the same rules. Please view the PDF file "Animal Cruelty Amendments at a Glance" at the link I provided which outlines this.

Peter Singer is WAAAAAYYY over my head I'm afraid.

I just wanted to make people aware of the bill. What they do beyond that is none of my concern.
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Took a quick look at Singer. Needs a much longer look on a rainy day. I saw some things I agree with and some I disagree with. All that I read seems to be food for thought and discussion.

Thanks for bringing that up Ol' Nobodaddy.

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Took a quick look at Singer. Needs a much longer look on a rainy day. I saw some things I agree with and some I disagree with. All that I read seems to be food for thought and discussion.

Thanks for bringing that up Ol' Nobodaddy.
I've been involved in some very lively discussions centering on Peter Singer. Met him once...interesting chap.
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Is this the same bill as they were talking about that will make it a crime for us to fish?

At the risk of offending some people my own opinion is that if so, I just can't support it. I am not for animal cruelty by any means. I love my animals and of course I would not stand for them being abused, but it seems like the activists take it too far.

If it keeps heading that way soon we could go to jail if a fish dies in our tanks...we could be charged for using feeder fish or other live foods....we won't be able to go fishing...where does it end? There needs to be a happy medium somewhere and I don't think this is going to help. Not to sound like a jerk, but these days it seems like animals have more rights than people. It is our job to take care of them, of course....does that mean they need more rights than our own sons and daughters? I don't think so.

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Here is something posted on Alberta Aquatica (ty williewonka)

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April 3, 2008


Federal Parliament Vote Friday Is Critical For Anglers

Join Us for a National Anglers "Phone Your MP" Day
A vote scheduled for Friday in the House of Commons on federal animal cruelty legislation (Bill S 203) will be critical for people who fish and hunt. S-203 protects anglers and hunters and other traditional animal uses while significantly increasing fines and penalties for wanton animal abuses.

The US based animal rights groups like the International Fund for Animal Welfare and others are mounting a full scale effort against this legislation. For ten years they have aggressively supported alternative legislation (C-373) which would make it a crime to kill a fish or a deer, even if the animal dies immediately. Extensive legal opinion obtained by the CSIA from the firm of Lang Michener confirms these threats to our traditional outdoor heritage activities. A fishing license affords no legal protection for killing a fish.

In recent days the animal rights groups have mounted a last minute 'blitz' in the press and in Ottawa against S-203, and against legal protection for fishing and hunting. These are the same groups who led the campaign to ban spring bear hunting in Ontario and they are out to make it a crime to take your kids fishing.

Federal Members of Parliament need to hear TODAY from all of us who value our right to fish.

Call your MP's office right now and tell them you vote, and you want them to vote IN FAVOR of Bill S-203. Please click here to find the listing for your MP's phone number, or check your local telephone directory.

Stand up for our freedom to fish along with the other eight million Canadians who enjoy a day on the water - before the animal rights people make it a crime.


Contact Your MP
To find your local Member of Parliament Click here.


Find Out More
The Bill to support is called S-203, and is available online to review.

Click here to see the bill online.

Click here to download a PDF copy of the legislation


The Threat
Some animal rights groups want a different bill supported - one that would make it a crime to kill a fish.

To see the activitists' preferred legislation (C-373), click here.

Click here to download a PDF copy of the legislation


CANADIAN SPORTFISHING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION
The Canadian Sportfishing Industry Association is a national alliance of fishing-related businesses including manufacturers, distributors, retailers, outdoor media and other fishing-related organizations. The CSIA and its members serve the interests of 8 million anglers who contribute over $7.5 billion to the Canadian economy. Its mandate is to ensure the stability of the recreational fishing industry while advocating sound fisheries management. Through its sister foundation, the Canadian National Sportfishing Foundation, they receive overwhelming, national support for their National Fishing Week, Canada's largest coast-to-coast-to coast awareness program promoting our angling heritage.

For more information or if you have any questions, contact:

Canadian Sportfishing Industry Association
Unit 11 - 1434 Chemong Road, Peterborough, ON K9J 6X2
Toll Free (877) 822-8881
Email tina@catchfishing.com

The Angler's Atlas is produced by Goldstream Publishing Inc., 7587 Eastview Street, Prince George, British Columbia, Canada, V2N 6X9.
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