Zeovit vs. Fauna Marin

[Fauna Marin]

Hi Guys

If i read this this postings my meaning is that a some people have big issues that we have success on the market and started to create a war of words against FM stuff.

Iám not here to discuss which company is better or not. We have our
ideas create our own products and on many parts of reef keeping we are leaders in developtment like food for Azoo corals , Fish and special corals
We also create a slight different system to a well know competitor but we did not only make a ULNS System.
The most of our costumers changed to our system and did not make a lot of words on it they only use it the most with success others not.
Like in every system

It is not difficult for me to create a extrem products to increase fast and extrem corals i only need to put some metals like copper in my products like other do and in 2 days you corals glow and your algeas gone.
Everyone looks only on some pictures and think all will gone easy but nobody talks on hundreds chrashed tanks.

Do not missunderstood me i like what my competitor do without competitiors no better ideas and no changing and that is important for the success that we all want to have.
We go a little bit different way like the others do and that all
Even like some friends of each system means to do a good work if they make the other company bad.
I dont think so !!!!

As i said a long time before
Reefkeeping is like cooking you can have the best foods , the best kitchen, the best manuals ,but without feeling no meal will be good

My company is younger then others on the market but the most of you uses products which i developed severals years ago for other brands during my time when i work in other companys. so i know what i produced and how i test the products.
Other company are much longer on the market and had more time for service , Forums, dealers and others so give me a chance and did not think i had to do all in a few weeks where others needs 6 and more years.!!!


@ Powertec
I have no idea which is your name so if you send me an PM i can see and have a change to react on your questions but without name no way for me


For any others
write me an mail and i will help asap i can
greets claude

[albert_dao]

Originally Posted by Fauna Marin

Hi Guys

If i read this this postings my meaning is that a some people have big issues that we have success on the market and started to create a war of words against FM stuff.

Iám not here to discuss which company is better or not. We have our
ideas create our own products and on many parts of reef keeping we are leaders in developtment like food for Azoo corals , Fish and special corals
We also create a slight different system to a well know competitor but we did not only make a ULNS System.
The most of our costumers changed to our system and did not make a lot of words on it they only use it the most with success others not.
Like in every system

It is not difficult for me to create a extrem products to increase fast and extrem corals i only need to put some metals like copper in my products like other do and in 2 days you corals glow and your algeas gone.
Everyone looks only on some pictures and think all will gone easy but nobody talks on hundreds chrashed tanks.

Do not missunderstood me i like what my competitor do without competitiors no better ideas and no changing and that is important for the success that we all want to have.
We go a little bit different way like the others do and that all
Even like some friends of each system means to do a good work if they make the other company bad.
I dont think so !!!!

As i said a long time before
Reefkeeping is like cooking you can have the best foods , the best kitchen, the best manuals ,but without feeling no meal will be good

My company is younger then others on the market but the most of you uses products which i developed severals years ago for other brands during my time when i work in other companys. so i know what i produced and how i test the products.
Other company are much longer on the market and had more time for service , Forums, dealers and others so give me a chance and did not think i had to do all in a few weeks where others needs 6 and more years.!!!


@ Powertec
I have no idea which is your name so if you send me an PM i can see and have a change to react on your questions but without name no way for me


For any others
write me an mail and i will help asap i can
greets claude

Title of the thread is Zeovit vs. Fauna Marin.

By default, you've just made harsh, unsubstantiated accusations against Korallen Zucht.

[Fauna Marin]

Do not missunderstood me i like what my competitor do !

That is my real meaning so you missunderstood me . sorry for that
my english is not as well to write it on that way that all can understand correctly how i mean it
greets claude

[Aqua-Digital]

Claude is merely defending his company from comments within this thread which he is entitled to do, espcially under the pressure that is clearly being waged on the new kid on the block. This actually gives me great relief as the FM product is being taken very seriously.

No I dont expect stacks of people to come on here and rave about the FM system as it is relatively new, but given time as the user base spreads which it is very fast now with Claudes and my own user support, then in 6 months the debate will become more balanced, but even then as a company both FM and myself will never say one is better than the other, different maybe, but not better. Each has its own merits dependant on what the user wishes to acheive.

So lets get on track and discuss the merits of both systems and please everyone drop all this "my system is better than your system" talk.

Constructive positive PLEASE. Nothing is ever gained from negative marketing, ever.

[albert_dao]

I was under the impression that the first and second criticisms were both constructive.

Sorry Michael, but you cannot just sweep corroborated opinions under the rug and tag them as negative marketing.

Here's the quote that bothers me:

Originally Posted by Fauna Marin

It is not difficult for me to create a extrem products to increase fast and extrem corals i only need to put some metals like copper in my products like other do and in 2 days you corals glow and your algeas gone.
Everyone looks only on some pictures and think all will gone easy but nobody talks on hundreds chrashed tanks.

Unfounded and, as of earlier in this thread, debunked. Without that particle, I personally have no issue to level against Ultralith.

[Powertec]

Claude
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You told me to pm you, I have done this three times, and still no reply.
You should know who I am from the Ultralith forum and you sent me pm on there as well when i first brought this to your attention.

[Jason McK]

I Typically do not like chiming into these threads as they get too heated.
I'm a huge supporter of ULNS I don't care if your with FM or Zeo.

I do not think Claude was attacking Zeo, if you read his post without bias you will see he was just explaining the differences in the system.
English not being Claude first language may give him some difficulties expressing himself as eloquently as he could have in German.

Let keep this thread going with out getting too emotional. So far so good

J

[Fauna Marin]

Hi
Albert

I try to explain this words

I mean that my first thing is to create a system where everybody
can use it without have issues even when it will be overdosed
As sample Wodka methode an idea from a german friend of mine i
have a lot of critic to him why he published this methode and he also not understand me.
it is not the system byself which is dangerous it is extrem difficult to find the right dosing for each tank with this methods so hundreds of tanks crashed it is not the mistake of the product byself this can!! work but it is to dangerous for a lot of users.
the same with different products on the market or my own some are easy to use some are difficult and you need a lot of feeling to create with them good results.
What i mean is that it is sometimes not as difficult to create extrem stuff
which works fast and great but you ever must see the long time effect which such products will have and this is in my opinion one of the most important things which an producer have to think.
So we write on the most products all ingredients and we did not work
with extrem stuff like as sample high copper dosings.
Ok the results are then lower but also safer.
Only a different way that all

I hope now is better to understand my meaning

Greets from germany :-)

[Aqua-Digital]

Agree 100%

Many thanks.

I think this thread really will have a whole lot more relevance in 6 months once the new kid on the block has been given the chance to stretch his legs, i think we will see a great balanced review on all systems. I for one am setting up some big reviews, one lucky CANREEF member has been given the chance to do this and is in the middle of setting it up, so I think time will tell and bring great positive attributes to both the systems and CANREEF.

this is being googled already

[martym]

This is not what I intended this post to be. I was looking for peoples results using the 2 different methods. I believe that the manufacturers and the distributors should stay out of it. Of course they are going to protect and advertise for their product. If they notice that one or more people had or are having issues with the systems, then they should contact them via PM to help solve the issues. Quit taking offense to what YOUR customers are saying. Use it to improve on your product and service.
Everyone's tanks and dedication to their tanks are different, so therefore results will be different. I just just wanted to make an informed decision on which way to go, and ask the users of the products questions about their success and or failure.
So lets relax out there and let people say what they think of the products out there. Realize that everyone is allowed to have their own opinion, and that is what I was looking for. Not an advertisement for anyone product.
Thank you to those who did let me know what they thought of the 2 products.