Seaclone Skimmer

[Chad]

OK,

I got a Seaclone skimmer w/ MaxiJet 1200 and a custom made turbo venturi... I got it so it produces little bubbles and just enough flow so there are no bubbles entering the system. (I adjust the air via a needle valve). Problem is.. I get zero skimmate.. It bubbles up in a fine mist and just pops.. nothing else.. completely white... Anyone know what I am doing wrong?

Chad

[Jack]

Well, for starters, it's a Sea clone that's why

But skimmers have a break-in period where they get a slime coat ect.. then it should start skimming. Break in periods differ so I can't say forsure.

[martym]

I also have a seaclone. It took a couple of days before it started to work ( I use that term loosly ) I only get about a 1/4" of scum every 2-3 days. I would like to modify it some how to work better.

[Pete]

i also use the seaclone you really need to find the right amount of air entering .
i took the tube in the middle skimmer completly out and it is working alot better. you may want to try that.

[Chad]

It has all the modifications that have been suggested on ReefCentral. I understand, hey its a seaclone.. its on a 20gal so I don't want it that efficient.. just enough to get some baddies gunk out while I fight some cyno... It has been running for over a day.. just wondering if its ever gonna make foam..

Chad

[sumpfinfishe]

Hey Chad,
Sorry to hear that you purchased a Sea "Clunker". That's ok though-we all make mistakes. I bought one when I was in my first year, and it was also dismanteled by the end of that same year. I to also made every mod upgrade with not much success.

For smaller reefs such as ours, there are a few really good skimmers out there that will do the job. IMO if I were you I would think about selling or trading in the Sea Clone. Then you could go with either a Remora, Bakpak, or a Prizm. I have been using the Prizm model now for just over 2 years and I am happy with it's performance most of the time.

Like Jack mentioned, all skimmers have a break-in period. Some can run great after a few hours and others sometimes need a few days before they will even show a sign of working. My roomates Berlin will draw out waste after about an hour or two after cleaning, where as mine takes up to a full day before it starts to collect build-up just in the risser area of the unit.

Be patient with any skimmer IMO, as they all seem to have there faults.
Also be aware that if you have a smaller tank, and are keeping up with monthly water changes then your skimmer will not likely be able to draw out too much waste from a clean water column. My skimmer basically runs in sleep mode for the first to weeks of the month until a slow accumalation of waste can start to be collected in the last two weeks.

Goodluck!
cheers, Rich

[MalHavoc]

Originally Posted by Chad

It has all the modifications that have been suggested on ReefCentral. I understand, hey its a seaclone.. its on a 20gal so I don't want it that efficient.. just enough to get some baddies gunk out while I fight some cyno... It has been running for over a day.. just wondering if its ever gonna make foam..

Chad

Personally, I'd argue that you'd need a better skimmer on a smaller tank, because there is less water volume. Any skimmer can pull at least some gunk out of a large tank because there is so much water volume to process. Smaller tanks need skimmers that can more aggressively scrub the smaller amount of water which may flow through them.

Having said that, all new skimmers need a break in period. There are plastic agents on the skimmer's parts which can prevent them from being able to create a stable foam, at least for a few days to a week. Give it some time and see how it goes.

[StirCrazy]

I think you all are basshing a skimmer which preforms pourly because the people who used them have unrealistic hopes for them. On a 20 gal or smaller a normal sea clone will do good once it is set up right. the problem came from the raiting on the box, up to 80 gal. I ran a sea clone for a test on my tank and was impressed by its attempt to keep up. It pulled about 1/4 the amount of skimmate as my becket did.

if you look at a prisim it is the same, but a prisim won't handle a 80 gal either. I am not sure how they come up with raitings and such but if you basicly cut the raiting by 2/3rds you will have a safe estimat of the real capacity.

Another problem with skimmers on small tanks is that people tend to over stock smaller tanks by a large amount. This alone will max out the skimmer preformance well befor the max advertised capability is reached.

Steve

[Chad]

I do a weekly water change.... The skimmer is not brand new.. Its actualy a used one purchased off of AJ77 If I can get it to pull some skimmate I will be happy. Maybe the tank is good and clean already but since I have alot of cyno I figured I may have a large quantity of DOC that my weekly water changes are not keeping up with.

This cyno is very frustrating I keep on turkey basting the rocks and corals to keep it clear. But within a day its back.

I've read that using a slower PH like a Maxijet 600 or 900 would work better on this skimmer than the 1200 Any thoughts?

thanks

Chad

[Chad]

Originally Posted by MalHavoc

Personally, I'd argue that you'd need a better skimmer on a smaller tank, because there is less water volume. Any skimmer can pull at least some gunk out of a large tank because there is so much water volume to process. Smaller tanks need skimmers that can more aggressively scrub the smaller amount of water which may flow through them.

My thought in having a less efficient skimmer is that with a smaller tank you tend to do more frequent water changes. If I had an aggressive skimmer then everything (including the good stuff) would be out of the water coloum before I ever had a chance to do my water change. Maybe I am way off base on this

Chad