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Old 05-26-2002, 12:33 PM
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I'd like to put lighting in a canopy as a DIY project.

Could anyone tell me the components I'd need for a 2 MH bulb plus 2 VHO FL bulb set-up ?

Does anyone know where I could get instructions for this project ?
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Componets needed:

2 MH ballasts (or one dual ballast)
2 MH lamps
2 Mogule Sockets
Wire for ballast to sockets (unless enough supplied with ballast)
1 VHO Electronic ballast (Icecap or Workhorse)
2 VHO lamps
4 VHO endcaps
4 Endcap stands
Wire for ballast to endcaps (unless enough supplied with ballast)
2 3-prong timers (for setting on/off times for each ballast)
12 small screws (two for each socket/endcap)
1 Screwdriver
1 Wire Stripper/cutter
1 Package of heat shrink tubing (to finish and seal wire splices)

As for plans, it is pretty straightforward. All you need to do is determine where inside your canopy you would like (or can fit) the lamps. Then screw in the sockets for the MH lamps and the endcaps for the VHO lamps. Then find a spot to place or mount your ballasts. Then run the necessary wires from the ballasts to the sockets and endcaps. The mogule sockets are easy, they only require a two wire connection from each ballast. The VHO ballast is a little more complicated as it has multiple wires for each individual endcap, but there is usually a wiring diagram and instructions that come with the ballast.

I built my own canopy and originally installed 4x48" VHO lamps on an Icecap660 ballast. Lighting install took about 1 hour from start to finish.

And I just recently added a single 250W MH lamp, and that was even easier, took 30 mins total (15 mins of that was moving a couple existing VHO lamps to make room for the MH lamp.

Good luck with your new lighting project!

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Old 05-26-2002, 08:46 PM
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How far away do VHO and NO bulbs have to be from the MH? I need to know
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I don't know how far away they HAVE to be, but my 250W MH lamp is between two VHO tubes and is a maximum of 3" away from each.

So far after a week and a half I haven't noticed any ill effect on the VHO tubes.

Others who have been using MH longer may have different experiences?
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Thanks Andrew, hope I didn't sound stupid. "I NEED TO KNOW" Lol, thanks anyways.

So which way should the MH bulb be in your canopy?
Parallel to the tank or perpendicular?
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In a perfect world, it is recommended that MH lamps run perpendicular to the length of the tank as more light spreads from the sides of the lamps than does from the front and back. (Which makes sense as the back is facing the mogule socket, duh) You are effectively lighting more area of your tank by having the light spread out towards the sides, rather than shooting out the front and back of the tank.

But in most of our "not-so-perfect" worlds, this would take up precious room under our hoods for florescent tubes.

So I run my MH lamps parallel to my VHO tubes, because that way I can still have 4x48" tubes under there with the 250W MH lamp. Otherwise I would only be able to fit 2x48" tubes if I ran my MH perpendicular. I realize that I am limiting the area the MH directly illuminates to the front to back area underneath it, rather than a larger side to side area, but such is life.

For reference, my canopy has a 60"x20" area. A MH lamp and socket is almost 12" in length, so if I were to run it perpendicular in my hood that would only leave 4" in front of and behind it for florescent tubes. By running it parallel, I can maximize the 20" depth of my canopy by fitting 4x48" tubes as well as the 250W MH lamp.
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Quote:
Originally posted by canadawest:
Componets needed:

2 MH ballasts (or one dual ballast)
2 MH lamps
2 Mogule Sockets
Wire for ballast to sockets (unless enough supplied with ballast)
1 VHO Electronic ballast (Icecap or Workhorse)
2 VHO lamps
4 VHO endcaps
4 Endcap stands
Wire for ballast to endcaps (unless enough supplied with ballast)
2 3-prong timers (for setting on/off times for each ballast)
12 small screws (two for each socket/endcap)
1 Screwdriver
1 Wire Stripper/cutter
1 Package of heat shrink tubing (to finish and seal wire splices)

As for plans, it is pretty straightforward. All you need to do is determine where inside your canopy you would like (or can fit) the lamps. Then screw in the sockets for the MH lamps and the endcaps for the VHO lamps. Then find a spot to place or mount your ballasts. Then run the necessary wires from the ballasts to the sockets and endcaps. The mogule sockets are easy, they only require a two wire connection from each ballast. The VHO ballast is a little more complicated as it has multiple wires for each individual endcap, but there is usually a wiring diagram and instructions that come with the ballast.

I built my own canopy and originally installed 4x48" VHO lamps on an Icecap660 ballast. Lighting install took about 1 hour from start to finish.

And I just recently added a single 250W MH lamp, and that was even easier, took 30 mins total (15 mins of that was moving a couple existing VHO lamps to make room for the MH lamp.

Good luck with your new lighting project!
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Old 05-27-2002, 04:38 AM
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Yah, I hear ya Andrew. My 400w is parallel right now and I would like to put it perpindicular also, but as with you, space is a limiting factor. I think I have 18" but I would love to stuff some VHO in there while running a perpindicular MH with reflector. I am running 2x 40w NO right now and I wonder if I could try and make the MH fit perp. Hmmm, how close is too close for the tip of the bulb to be to a VHO or NO bulb? Is heat a problem with flourscents?
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I don't know how close is too close, but as an updated to my previous post, I have one tube 1" from my MH lamp and another tube 2" from it. So far no ill effects.

Now I have only had the MH lamp for a little less than 2 weeks, so I have no long term observations. Perhaps others who have used MH and florescents for longer can comment?

I don't imagine there would be too much trouble having your florescent tube near the end of your lamp.
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Andrew,
I know that this may sound REALLY stupid... but why do you use both MH & VHO? It was my undersanding that you should get either/or with actinics.

Cheers,
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