Copperband Butterfly

[Casey8]

[quote=paddyob;682489]An LFS only sells them, as one said to me, "if I don't sell something then people just buy it somewhere else and I Lose sales" - this is not a perfect quote.

It's a money grab fish.



Hmmm ... it sounds very familiar to me when I was told by one of the workers at Island Pets ... never went back to that store.

[toytech]

I had one for 4 days and i watched it suddenly die , took about 20 min and no conciveable reason for it happening . Such a shame these fish are so fragile .

[paddyob]

Originally Posted by Reef Pilot

Yes, I returned one to the LFS, but he wasn't sick. He was my first one, and I made the mistake of putting him into my DT too early, and I couldn't get him to feed properly. The other fish would grab all the food, and he just gave up trying to compete with them. Luckily, though, I had a mature tank, and he scrounged pods and stuff in the live rock. I actually had him for about 2 months, but I could see him losing weight, so I decided to take him back. I did not have a separate quarantine tank at that time.

After that I tried again with two more, but this time I went the QT route and got them feeding and healthy. I sold one (they didn't get along together) and the other is still alive and well today in my display tank.

I explained this to you a couple times now....

Yup. Still a loss.

[paddyob]

[quote=Casey8;682555]

Originally Posted by paddyob

An LFS only sells them, as one said to me, "if I don't sell something then people just buy it somewhere else and I Lose sales" - this is not a perfect quote.

It's a money grab fish.



Hmmm ... it sounds very familiar to me when I was told by one of the workers at Island Pets ... never went back to that store.

Different shop

[paddyob]

Sorry. Reef pilot. Just pointing out the fact that you are giving information out without explaining that this one you have doing well, is not your first. As your first one was clearly dying.

I feel it is important not to leave those details out when you feel the need to give advice on an expert only fish.

Leaving out the fact you had to take one back to the LFS is vital to know when a person is asking about the trials and errors.

I'll post this everytime after you!!!

Lol.

[Reef Pilot]

Originally Posted by paddyob

Sorry. Reef pilot. Just pointing out the fact that you are giving information out without explaining that this one you have doing well, is not your first. As your first one was clearly dying.

I feel it is important not to leave those details out when you feel the need to give advice on an expert only fish.

Leaving out the fact you had to take one back to the LFS is vital to know when a person is asking about the trials and errors.

I'll post this everytime after you!!!

Lol.

Well, I don't want to write a book every time I talk about CB's. People would get bored quickly. If they want more info, they can go look at my past posts. Or they can ask, and I'll be happy to refer them to some of my past posts.

The big point is that you can be successful with CB's, and I showed how with my other two. And I disagree that my first one was a loss. I did the right thing and returned him before he was too far gone. Given what I know now, I also have no doubt that I could have successfully kept him if I had a QT at that time, and applied my initial feeding techniques that worked with the other two.

I will never say CB's are easy to keep. They do require extra care and attention to get feeding properly, and then acclimatized to your display tank with all the other fish. But if you can get them to the point where they swim fearlessly throughout the tank, and aggressively feed with the other fish, then you are home free. It takes a few months, at least, but it is very rewarding in the end.

[paddyob]

A small number live compared to what sells.

It's fact.


Anyhow. Sorry Jerry. Best of luck.

[AaronH]

Once I was able to get mine to eat I tried mussels and it loves them
Now it let's me pet him when I'm feeding
Has to be one of my fav fish in the tank

[naesco]

The reality is this is an extremely difficult, as pointed out by other posters. but not impossible fish to keep.
It simply dies without any apparent reason just as the OPs did and IMO should not be available in stores for sale.
It should be available to reefers who order them in. That way fish loss will be much much lower for this species.
It follows than that it should not be recommended for dealing with aiptasia problems when there are other critters and methods available that do not sacrifice a fish.

I also agree with the comments that the very few who are presently having success keeping them have an obligation to post their failures with the species to provide reefers with a balanced view.

Seems to me that CBB's are only one species among many that are arguably unsuitable for most keepers, given their track records. Just among the butterfly fish, there are many species one could suggest the same IMO
Why is it this seems to get pointed out when CBB's come up? Because they are more often available than some of the others?