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corrosionjerry 02-14-2012 10:45 PM

Copperband Butterfly
 
I purchased a CB on the weekend... looked like it was eating however today it is belly up...

Reading on the net they say these fish should not be netted is there any truth to that.... reason being that is exactly how the fish was caught and bagged for me at a local NE shop on the weekend....

Not happy at the moment

subman 02-14-2012 10:50 PM

CB are very fragile fish and after losing 2 I won't waste money on them anymore. I've never heard the 'no netting' before seems like a odd statement. Imho it wasn't the net that killed your fish. Some fish shouldn't be sold and the CB is one of them.

Reef Pilot 02-14-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by corrosionjerry (Post 682342)
I purchased a CB on the weekend... looked like it was eating however today it is belly up...

Reading on the net they say these fish should not be netted is there any truth to that.... reason being that is exactly how the fish was caught and bagged for me at a local NE shop on the weekend....

Not happy at the moment

Was it being bullied by any other fish? Yellow Tangs can be very viscous to CB's. I have owned a few CB's now, and never had one die on me. My current one is over a year old in my tank and doing great.

And netting is not harmful to them, anymore than any other fish.

You have my sympathies. They are beautiful fish.

corrosionjerry 02-14-2012 11:38 PM

No bullies the only other fish in the tank are 5 blue Chromis...

Reef Pilot 02-14-2012 11:50 PM

Don't know... Odd that he would die that quickly, and he was already eating. I can ask the obvious questions, like water parameters, but assume you already checked that. Hope the salinity of the water from your LFS was the same as yours.

daniella3d 02-15-2012 01:45 AM

That's a very good point. Sometimes the LFS keep their tanks at very low salinity, like 1.010 sometimes. If you go from this to 1.025, the difference is way too much on the fish even if you take 5 hours to acclimate it.

The only reasonable way to deal with this is to mesure the salinity in the bag and if the difference is more than 0.005 points, then lower the salinity in the quarantine tank and take a few days to raise it to normal. YOu will need to quarantine a copperband anyway, to give it a fair chance of survival and get it to eat without any other fish competition.

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Originally Posted by Reef Pilot (Post 682371)
Don't know... Odd that he would die that quickly, and he was already eating. I can ask the obvious questions, like water parameters, but assume you already checked that. Hope the salinity of the water from your LFS was the same as yours.


paddyob 02-15-2012 03:01 AM

Not surprised.

Most people have no chance keeping them alive.

An LFS only sells them, as one said to me, "if I don't sell something then people just buy it somewhere else and I Lose sales" - this is not a perfect quote.

It's a money grab fish.

A search on here will show you. SOME people are lucky... But hearing it died is more common than hearing from the tang police.

Too bad the same people don't vocalize this topic.

Sorry for your luck, or loss of money.

paddyob 02-15-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Reef Pilot (Post 682349)
Was it being bullied by any other fish? Yellow Tangs can be very viscous to CB's. I have owned a few CB's now, and never had one die on me. My current one is over a year old in my tank and doing great.

And netting is not harmful to them, anymore than any other fish.

You have my sympathies. They are beautiful fish.

You returned a sick one or two I thought. Maybe I Have you mixed up with Someone else. But returning a sick fish is a loss.

Reef Pilot 02-15-2012 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by paddyob (Post 682492)
You returned a sick one or two I thought. Maybe I Have you mixed up with Someone else. But returning a sick fish is a loss.

Yes, I returned one to the LFS, but he wasn't sick. He was my first one, and I made the mistake of putting him into my DT too early, and I couldn't get him to feed properly. The other fish would grab all the food, and he just gave up trying to compete with them. Luckily, though, I had a mature tank, and he scrounged pods and stuff in the live rock. I actually had him for about 2 months, but I could see him losing weight, so I decided to take him back. I did not have a separate quarantine tank at that time.

After that I tried again with two more, but this time I went the QT route and got them feeding and healthy. I sold one (they didn't get along together) and the other is still alive and well today in my display tank.

I explained this to you a couple times now....:neutral:

corrosionjerry 02-15-2012 04:06 AM

Yes I should of known better.... I thought with my reef tank that is mature that there would be no problem / I dripped him for a couple of hours to bring to the same salinity.... everything looked good... was pecking at the rocks and seemed to take some brine shrimp etc.... no compitition in the the tank only the Chromis and I watched as I fed ... he was definetly able to get his fair share....

Thus after reading on the net... it was stated in many posts that these fish do not tollerate netting or exposure to air... True or not?


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