Wow, nice Clams from ORA

[Samw]

Originally Posted by zulu_principle

I think you need to get a price point so you realize the cost of these items from ORA.

Superior quality = expensive (also means better survivability)

At MACNA, ORA zoanthaids were $40 US for a 1" by 1" frag.

What do you think the clams would retail for ?


Wendell

I told them I'd pay 50% more than their current wild clams. But after some quick browsing, online stores are pricing ORA clams about the same as wild clams or less. Actually, I had a very hard time finding wild clams.

For example, Maxima Clams.

Tridacna Reefs http://www.tridacnareef.com

Wild 4" Ultra $100
ORA 3" First grade $48
ORA 3" Ultra $56
ORA <3" First grade $25-$40


CoralFragz http://www.coralfragz.com/clams.html

Aquacultured 3" First grade $36-$49
Aquacultured 3" Ultra $46-$82


Clams Direct http://www.clamsdirect.com/cart/cust...ome.php?cat=10

Aquacultured 3" First grade $39-$49
Aquacultured 3" Ultra grade $69-$89


Marine Depot http://www.marinedepotlive.com/1253554.html

Wild medium first grade $80
Wild medium Ultra $114

[zulu_principle]

Sam

Are those costs delivered to Canada ?


Wendell

[smokinreefer]

i dont think you can really compare those prices to what we pay here...
the availability and market in the US, just makes the industry here a completely different animal.

i've seen just as impressive looking clams in our LFSs.

or are you looking strictly for aquacultured clams?

[StirCrazy]

Sam from what I have found throught inquiries for buying a single live item from the US is that you can double the price then convert it to canadian bucks. after that you can add the cost of a permit. that 50.00US clam would end up being about 200.00 to 300.00 cdn delivered.

the slam gets a little easyer if you are buying bulk but there are still a lot of hidden costs we don't think about.

Steve

[Samw]

Originally Posted by zulu_principle

Sam

Are those costs delivered to Canada ?


Wendell

Originally Posted by StirCrazy

Sam from what I have found throught inquiries for buying a single live item from the US is that you can double the price then convert it to canadian bucks. after that you can add the cost of a permit. that 50.00US clam would end up being about 200.00 to 300.00 cdn delivered.

the slam gets a little easyer if you are buying bulk but there are still a lot of hidden costs we don't think about.

Steve

Guys, the point isn't about the price of clams in Canada. Shipping for either wild or ORA should be the same.

If it costs a store $20 for a wild one shipped to Canada, wouldn't it be the same $20 for the ORA one shipped to Canada if the price of the clams were the same? If it costs me $300 to ship 1 wild clam, isn't it the same $300 to ship the ORA one? Am I missing something?

The stores are going to pay the same for shipping whether they order ORA or wild (assuming origin is the same). Why would the stores have to pay extra shipping for the ORA clams? I don't think they do at all. So therefore, they could order ORA clams and the prices to us should be the same as the prices of the wild ones.

[Samw]

Originally Posted by smokinreefer

i dont think you can really compare those prices to what we pay here...
the availability and market in the US, just makes the industry here a completely different animal.

i've seen just as impressive looking clams in our LFSs.

or are you looking strictly for aquacultured clams?

Smokin, I'm not comparing US to Canadian prices. I'm comparing US to US prices. I'm saying wild clams are the same price as ORA ones in the US. Those prices I listed are comparing wild prices vs ORA prices in US dollars.

[smokinreefer]

ahhh...OK.

[Samw]

Originally Posted by smokinreefer

ahhh...OK.

Yeah, I could be completely wrong about wild vs ORA costs but based on retail price in the US, they look close. So, what I'm getting at is that since I haven't seen first color grade Maximas at J&L yet this year, maybe supply is low or their supplier is having problems. In that case, why don't they order from ORA since it doesn't appear to me that there is much of a difference in cost. If there is, it appears to be a small difference since US prices between wild and ORA are similar.

I know you're looking for some clams. If you find some nice ones nearby, let me know.

[smokinreefer]

a little birdy told me JL should be getting in some ultra maxs soon.

seacare usually has some nice clams in stock.

BigAls got a large shipment of clams in a few weeks ago, but sadly, that time i forgot what the little birdy said and by the time i made my way out there, there was slim pickins.

it seems like its all about being at the right place at the right time

that being said, what am i doing...
errr, i mean there are no clams in vancouver, there are no clams in vancouver!

[Samw]

Originally Posted by smokinreefer

a little birdy told me JL should be getting in some ultra maxs soon.

seacare usually has some nice clams in stock.

BigAls got a large shipment of clams in a few weeks ago, but sadly, that time i forgot what the little birdy said and by the time i made my way out there, there was slim pickins.

it seems like its all about being at the right place at the right time

that being said, what am i doing...
errr, i mean there are no clams in vancouver, there are no clams in vancouver!

I should be more specific. By nearby, I meant Lower Mainland. Oh, not to complain or seem ungrateful but also I'm looking for a clam less than $100. I know that's pushing it. Big Al's I've seen. Again, not to seem cheap, but I'm looking for something like the ones I use to have. Bright Blue, less than $100, like the ones I use to have. Seacare does seem to be the best bet at this moment.