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Samw 10-05-2003 09:46 PM

Wow, nice Clams from ORA
 
Too bad Clams are on the CITES list. There are a few I want to buy here. This isn't right. Captive bred and raised clams shouldn't be restricted from International trade.

ORA Clams

Canadian Man 10-05-2003 10:10 PM

WOW!

The 2D and 3A are stunning :cool: :eek:

I agree with you Sam, It does not make sense to have captive raised/farmed animals on the CITES list. :rolleyes:

Quinn 10-05-2003 10:13 PM

Who regulates CITES? Someone should write them a letter.

Come to think of it, what's the point of CITES applying on Canada-US trade? If they're in the US, obviously they've already passed CITES. So why do they need to be checked/certified again?

Samw 10-05-2003 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian Man
WOW!

The 2D and 3A are stunning :cool: :eek:

Those are nice! My favorites in the pics would be 3D, 2U-A, and 3U-A!

Veng68 10-06-2003 12:08 AM

I think they are still classified because of the threat of "cheating" I guess. Also Cities is used to track the trade of the endangered animals. I agree that captive or farmed animals should not be on cites........ but what can you do.

Cheers,
Victor Veng68

Stretch 10-06-2003 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by teevee
So why do they need to be checked/certified again?

Too waste our tax dollars? :rolleyes: :lol:

If they would relax the importing from the US too canada, the governement would get their share since people wouldn't have to smuggle them in.

Delphinus 10-06-2003 04:37 AM

You know .. CITES may be a PITA but in the end I totally support it.

Basically we formally declare a species as "endangered" or "threatened" and then we apply rules to the transit of these. Whether it is captive raised or wild collected doesn't really make any difference to the rules of transit.

I guess maybe where there is "room for improvement" is when a vendor in the U.S. imports something legally, why can't that same paperwork be leveraged into re-export purposes? I wonder if the issue is that a lot of vendors simply can't be bothered to do the extra overhead just to satisfy some international customers who will probably only count for 5%-15% of their business anyways.

Seems to me we have some quality vendors in our country who would probably be keen to buy from ORA if they knew that we (their customers) were interested in that sort of thing. Send that kind of feedback to your favourite vendor!! Odds are they'll probably not jump on the opportunity just because one or two of us suggest it, but if they start hearing it upwards of like 10 times or whatever, the message might start getting through.

Samw 10-07-2003 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Delphinus
Seems to me we have some quality vendors in our country who would probably be keen to buy from ORA if they knew that we (their customers) were interested in that sort of thing. Send that kind of feedback to your favourite vendor!! Odds are they'll probably not jump on the opportunity just because one or two of us suggest it, but if they start hearing it upwards of like 10 times or whatever, the message might start getting through.


Yes, I did Email J&L that I am interested in some Ora Clams. Hope others do too.

zulu_principle 10-07-2003 01:32 AM

I think you need to get a price point so you realize the cost of these items from ORA.

Superior quality = expensive (also means better survivability)

At MACNA, ORA zoanthaids were $40 US for a 1" by 1" frag.

What do you think the clams would retail for ?


Wendell

andestang 10-07-2003 02:20 AM

Yeeouch :eek: :exclaim: But you never know - sure are awsome :mrgreen:


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