180 Gallon Starfire Aquarium Cost

[itsmeraja86]

I am in the process of requesting quotes from the Miracle aquarium, Primoreefacrylic and concept aquarium. I know what size of the tank i would need 72x24x24 however the major question is around how many Drain holes and size as well as how many return holes and size of the hole required.

This might be a dumb question but since i am running a sumpless system i have no idea what is ideal and good solution .

Also Internal overflow vs external overflow ( i liked the left right corner internal overflow but not sure if that has any drawbacks).

I am also needing guidance on fail safe overflow options like drilling a 3/4" hole just above the waterline to have water reverse siphon only limited water that can be accomodated by my sump.

One last question is how big of a sump i need for this 180(72x24x24)

[SeaHorse_Fanatic]

Originally Posted by itsmeraja86

One last question is how big of a sump i need for this 180(72x24x24)

I have a similar size display and I have never regretted going with a 90g wide sump (48x24x18 tall). Lots of space to hold skimmers, media reactors, filter socks, macroalgae, return pump, etc. Also no issue with overflowing a big sump when you shut off the return pump and your system drains a bit into the sump.

[itsmeraja86]

Originally Posted by SeaHorse_Fanatic

I have a similar size display and I have never regretted going with a 90g wide sump (48x24x18 tall). Lots of space to hold skimmers, media reactors, filter socks, macroalgae, return pump, etc. Also no issue with overflowing a big sump when you shut off the return pump and your system drains a bit into the sump.

ok.. I red in few forums that tall is not a ideal sump set up coz longer it is more usable room than just water capacity.. but if i have enough room under the tank .. i would definitely go for a 90G sump

[iamfrontosa]

Originally Posted by itsmeraja86

I am in the process of requesting quotes from the Miracle aquarium, Primoreefacrylic and concept aquarium. I know what size of the tank i would need 72x24x24 however the major question is around how many Drain holes and size as well as how many return holes and size of the hole required.

This might be a dumb question but since i am running a sumpless system i have no idea what is ideal and good solution .

Also Internal overflow vs external overflow ( i liked the left right corner internal overflow but not sure if that has any drawbacks).

I am also needing guidance on fail safe overflow options like drilling a 3/4" hole just above the waterline to have water reverse siphon only limited water that can be accomodated by my sump.

One last question is how big of a sump i need for this 180(72x24x24)

You don't want to drill above the water line, or else water will be shooting out everywhere when the pump is running. You shouldn't even need to drill holes for back siphon if you tank is built correctly.

Your return line should not be too low (below water line) that your sump can not handle all the extra volume when the pump is shut off. If you order from Dave (Concepts), you can just let him know what you want, say a Herbie system (same as mine). I went with internal centre overflow. I like the clean look. But my next tank will be external. Just so I will have more room inside the tank.

You can let him know which return pump you will be running, and Dave can take care of the plumping headaches for you. You might as well order sump from Dave if you are going to use him anyway.

He usually draws up a nice sketch before the build for your review.

By the way, I am not working for Concepts. I am just another customer that bought a tank, sump, stand, and plumping from him. I was in your shoes too. I had the exact same questions as you. Good luck !

[itsmeraja86]

Originally Posted by iamfrontosa

You don't want to drill above the water line, or else water will be shooting out everywhere when the pump is running. You shouldn't even need to drill holes for back siphon if you tank is built correctly.

Your return line should not be too low (below water line) that your sump can not handle all the extra volume when the pump is shut off. If you order from Dave (Concepts), you can just let him know what you want, say a Herbie system (same as mine). I went with internal centre overflow. I like the clean look. But my next tank will be external. Just so I will have more room inside the tank.

You can let him know which return pump you will be running, and Dave can take care of the plumping headaches for you. You might as well order sump from Dave if you are going to use him anyway.

He usually draws up a nice sketch before the build for your review.

By the way, I am not working for Concepts. I am just another customer that bought a tank, sump, stand, and plumping from him. I was in your shoes too. I had the exact same questions as you. Good luck !

Awesome.. i will give them a call and update how it went...

[itsmeraja86]

I tried getting quote from Concept aquarium, primo reef acrylics, Miracle and few other local stores.

only had success with Primo rest of them are busy and can giv eme quote only late next week.

Here is the quote he told.

Tank:
180(72x24x24)
19mm bottom
12mm walls
starphire front
-dual internal overflow
-inside bottom euro braces 2"
- 3.5" top eurobraces
Price -$2000
wihtout starphire - $1800
cost to cost overflow custom CNC - $300

SumpAcrylic)
40x20x18(62G)
-3/8" Walls
-3/8" baffles
Price: $950

ATO (5"x20"x18")- $300
Shipping -$100

Thoughts on the price please..

any good place for custom aquarium stand (including the top) looking for something that covers top and side.

[gmann]

concept should be able to beat that. Shipping might be your issue though.

I paid similar to what you got quoted. Just be prepared to go over budget.

[e46er]

I got quoted for a 72x24x30 tank from concepts for MUCH cheeper than that......

I'd pass on the sumo and ATO myself.
You can build a dump yourself in a couple hours and $150 and the ATO sounds expensive you can buy pre made glass tanks for much less.

[dave_C]

Originally Posted by itsmeraja86

I tried getting quote from Concept aquarium, primo reef acrylics, Miracle and few other local stores.

only had success with Primo rest of them are busy and can giv eme quote only late next week.

Here is the quote he told.

Tank:
180(72x24x24)
19mm bottom
12mm walls
starphire front
-dual internal overflow
-inside bottom euro braces 2"
- 3.5" top eurobraces
Price -$2000
wihtout starphire - $1800
cost to cost overflow custom CNC - $300

SumpAcrylic)
40x20x18(62G)
-3/8" Walls
-3/8" baffles
Price: $950

ATO (5"x20"x18")- $300
Shipping -$100

Thoughts on the price please..

any good place for custom aquarium stand (including the top) looking for something that covers top and side.

did you ask for 19mm glass and the added bottom brace?

if you did you are throwing money away lol way over kill for this size tank

[itsmeraja86]

Originally Posted by dave_C

did you ask for 19mm glass and the added bottom brace?

if you did you are throwing money away lol way over kill for this size tank

No i did not ask for 19mm bottom.. it was all his specifications.. i only told dimensions , overflow preference, type of material.. the size of the glass was his recommendation...