WTB Monti and Rainbow Dragon

[reefwithareefer]

Originally Posted by Ginu

Cities is required for all stony coral from what I remember.
Also live rock is a no/no
I believe Zoas/fish are OK to bring over.

i have brought some across before. Yes, you need all the proper paperwork showing customs it is allowed across etc. The issue is proving that what you are bringing across is what you say it is and what is allowed. They want it easy for them to understand or else it is too easy for them to just say no. They can not possibly know everything about what is allowed etc... Like anything in life, if you have all your ducks in a row, it usually makes it easier for all involved.

[DAVE]

Originally Posted by reefwithareefer

i have brought some across before. Yes, you need all the proper paperwork showing customs it is allowed across etc. The issue is proving that what you are bringing across is what you say it is and what is allowed. They want it easy for them to understand or else it is too easy for them to just say no. They can not possibly know everything about what is allowed etc... Like anything in life, if you have all your ducks in a row, it usually makes it easier for all involved.

You are taking a huge risk. At any point they could arrest you and charge you with the importation of a cities restricted animal.

The only ducks you should line up is the proper paperwork (i.e. a re-export cities permit), otherwise you are taking a huge risk

[Ryanerickson]

Originally Posted by BIGSHOW

You are taking a huge risk. At any point they could arrest you and charge you with the importation of a cities restricted animal.

The only ducks you should line up is the proper paperwork (i.e. a re-export cities permit), otherwise you are taking a huge risk

This is what I thought driving sps across border is crazy even if you have done it before and were successful doesn't mean it was right.

[reefwithareefer]

Originally Posted by Ryanerickson

This is what I thought driving sps across border is crazy even if you have done it before and were successful doesn't mean it was right.

How is it not right if it is all above board and legal?

[reefwithareefer]

Originally Posted by BIGSHOW

You are taking a huge risk. At any point they could arrest you and charge you with the importation of a cities restricted animal.

The only ducks you should line up is the proper paperwork (i.e. a re-export cities permit), otherwise you are taking a huge risk

Again. I am not sure how anyone took my words as doing something wrong or illegal. I had all the paperwork, i brought them across legally, but was a pain in the butt, even though I had all the right paperwork etc. Not all corals are illegal to bring across the line!

[Ryanerickson]

You actually paid for a cities permit?

[reefwithareefer]

Originally Posted by Ryanerickson

You actually paid for a cities permit?

Permits are required for importers/exporters not hobbyists. Schedule types play a role as well.
i am no expert by any means. I spent the time researching and talking with customs etc so that i could drive back with some corals. It was awhile back and do not remember every little detail, because in the end run it was a hassle. If the paper work was not exactly what a customs agent wanted, they could rake me over the coals. Like anytime you go across the border, the agents vary in mood, knowledge, expectations etc etc. Where one agent might think all was good, another will haul you in, interrogate you an then search your vehicle. I lived in California for quite awhile and spent many crossing in the office for nothing, while the next time I crossed with my parrot and nothing happened, just a have a good day.

[reefwithareefer]

I also physically drove them across, and from what customs told me, If i were to try and ship them across, that would be a whole different story. There are some US online stores that apparently can and will ship to Canada. Some people have said they have bought from these places and had them shipped with no issues. I have no experience in that, so I have no comment or knowledge of this method. It is my understanding that if the coral is cultured in the US it is way less complicated to import.


http://ec.gc.ca/Publications/0D42F8E...Trade_e_v6.pdf