Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board  

Go Back   Canreef Aquatics Bulletin Board > General > Reef

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-05-2015, 09:35 PM
AquaAddict AquaAddict is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: North Vancouver, BC
Posts: 152
AquaAddict is on a distinguished road
Default covered live rock

Hi,

I have a lot of exposed rock with lots of nooks and crannies and not so much coral. The tank looks great but I need to use Instant Ocean's Nitrate Reducer to keep the algae in check and it does a very good job.

Just saying. I think your tank is georgious!

AquaAddict
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-05-2015, 11:46 PM
straightrazorguy straightrazorguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 321
straightrazorguy is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to straightrazorguy
Default

I find it surprising that nobody mentions the coral's nutrient uptake. Corals (andby that I mean zoas too) use up nitrates and phosphates to grow. So, if anything, they help the nutrient equation. Sure, there's less exposed rock to harbour bacteria, but one can add rock elsewhere in the system: a refugium, cryptic rock in sump, etc. There's also tons of bacteria in the sand. Why would you want exposed rock in your DT?

I vote for coral-encrusted rocks over bare rock any day....
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-05-2015, 11:54 PM
Aquattro's Avatar
Aquattro Aquattro is offline
Just a guy..
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 18,053
Aquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by straightrazorguy View Post
I find it surprising that nobody mentions the coral's nutrient uptake.
Pretty sure that was one of my first points

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquattro View Post
Also, as I think about it, fully mature colonies will utilize nitrogen and phosphorous in there cellular makeup.
__________________
Brad
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-06-2015, 12:07 AM
straightrazorguy straightrazorguy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: New Westminster, BC
Posts: 321
straightrazorguy is on a distinguished road
Send a message via Skype™ to straightrazorguy
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquattro View Post
Pretty sure that was one of my first points
Ooops; I guess I should've read the whole thing.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-06-2015, 12:36 AM
reefwars reefwars is offline
R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 6,186
reefwars will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by straightrazorguy View Post
I find it surprising that nobody mentions the coral's nutrient uptake. Corals (andby that I mean zoas too) use up nitrates and phosphates to grow. So, if anything, they help the nutrient equation. Sure, there's less exposed rock to harbour bacteria, but one can add rock elsewhere in the system: a refugium, cryptic rock in sump, etc. There's also tons of bacteria in the sand. Why would you want exposed rock in your DT?

I vote for coral-encrusted rocks over bare rock any day....


so wait now lol you mean i can use corals and no need for rock then?
__________________
........
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-06-2015, 12:41 AM
Aquattro's Avatar
Aquattro Aquattro is offline
Just a guy..
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 18,053
Aquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reefwars View Post
so wait now lol you mean i can use corals and no need for rock then?
I read a journal on RC, guy was pretty much doing that!!

edit: This guy. Forget how much rock, but very little

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1
__________________
Brad
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-06-2015, 12:53 AM
reefwars reefwars is offline
R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 6,186
reefwars will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aquattro View Post
I read a journal on RC, guy was pretty much doing that!!

edit: This guy. Forget how much rock, but very little

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...5&pagenumber=1
i can believe it i have about 20 lbs in a 300g total system for zoanthids

i know of a supplier who keeps over 2500 fish (haw too so expensive) with about 50lbs of rock

it comes to knowing how your system operates
__________________
........
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-06-2015, 12:56 AM
Aquattro's Avatar
Aquattro Aquattro is offline
Just a guy..
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Victoria, BC
Posts: 18,053
Aquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the roughAquattro is a jewel in the rough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by reefwars View Post
it comes to knowing how your system operates
Ya, and that's the key right there. Too many people try to push their system to do something, rather than let it run and just pay attention to what it needs.

The biggest driver in the amount of rock I used was the number of corals I had to mount
__________________
Brad
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-06-2015, 01:31 AM
reefwars reefwars is offline
R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
Posts: 6,186
reefwars will become famous soon enough
Default

Yup , I get asked a lot how much rock do you need 1 lb per gallon , 2 lbs per gallon ......actually really not much , you'd probably need more than the ratio to actually build something and mount corals compared to what you need to just work lol

We QT all our fish all last summer when we tore down the bonsai , 5 maybe 7 lbs of rock swapped out every week kept over a dozen fish incuding tangs alive , no sand no skimmer etc. Just that little bit if rock, an air stone and powerhead and a heater or two....the bare basics and did beautifully
__________________
........
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.