Bubble Magnus Curve 9 Vs Vertex Alpha 250

[Bartonious]

Thanks to you all. Sounds great to me.

Any of you know how to source 2 off 55 gallon containers without having to order them online? Is there any common locations that use these? I am in St. john's Newfoundland.

[Stinktooth]

I was kinda worried about my curve 9 when I got it. It's awesome. I can handle some pretty nasty skimmer cup clean outs but the curve makes me gag every time lol. Best bang for your buck. I do think the overall build quality is better on the vertex but if I was in the market for a new skimmer my money would go to the new reef octopus regal or elite series skimmers.

[Skimmerking]

Well I have owned pretty much everything thing out there. With your 220 gal tank. What else do you have the reason is. the red dragon pump is in a league of its own. It requires a load to work. the Alpha series skimmers are a amazing skimmer. IMHO when you look at AppLes and oranges that is great.
But its the pump that you are looking at now the plastic or the fancy stuff that comes with it. Lots of people love the recirulating skimmers I lvoe them. People think that havign a recir skimmer you can still pump the water through at the same pace as the insump skimmers. ANSWER IS NO you cant. its called over flowing the skimmer. But that is another subject. Remember all the vendors on here are going to tell yo uthis skimmer is better or that skimmer is better. Sorry vendors Im speaking my mind and giving my opinion.

Its called buy from me this skimmer is the best. IS It? please explain why. So I personally look at the name brands, Why BK, ALpha, DELTEC, H&S why cause well thier name is on the product. they have got their name on high quality pumps. other then Euro reef i while back they had the sedra pump and that was a crappy pump. then they switched to EHIem and look at them go. Took a few years to get them back.

220 gal right
sump Size
bio load
chemicals u use
type of fish u have
corals you have
room for insump
room for external
BUDGET

please let me know in a PM and I will give you what I think you shoudl have for a honest opinion. and trust me not blowing my horn but I know my skimmers ask around. Hence the user name


oh yes and when some one says look at my skimmer in 2 days it pulled 2 collection cups already/ hmmmmm maybe its due to being under rated skimmer.

[reefwars]

Well...... unless your buying and a old alpha they don't come with the red Dragon pumps .......but what do I know lol

[Reef Supplies]

Skimmer King - I assume your comment "Its called buy from me this skimmer is the best. IS It? please explain why" Was directed to us since reefwars did not post commercially?

We have had this discussion before and like I tried to explain, we are not salesmen. I'm not and neither are my guys. We built our business on honesty, we treat every client like a personal friend. We don't sell you what you don't need.

But anyway....on to the topic

Your list below is not accurate.

220 gal right
sump Size
bio load
chemicals u use
type of fish u have
corals you have
room for insump
room for external
BUDGET

I think budget should be very first on the list. With being said, lots has changed in the past few years. Most skimmer available to the hobby will do a good job if you buy the right size.

What makes a skimmer "the best you can get for the money" you ask? Simple, the longevity of the pump.

We have sold 232 (Two hundred and thirty two) Bubble Magus skimmers since the inception of our current software (was not able to check prior) and wanna guess how many pumps came back for warranty? 3 pumps!

Pump 1 Curve 5 with a bad impeller
Pump 2 Curve 9 with a bad impeller
Pump 3 E5 with a dead pump

We have also started selling out of warranty pumps. We sold 3 pumps out of the remaining 229 skimmers sold since 2011. Under $100 I may add :-)

I could get into the pump replacement and cost for the high dollar items but I would not want to **** off my suppliers

Skimmers have come a LLLLOONG way. Skimmer such as Bubble Magus and Octopus have taken over market share.

With that being said, I in no way saying that the high dollar items suck but what I am saying is that we are lucky as hobbiest to have choice these days. You don't need to spend $1000 to get a quality skimmer anymore.

Have a good day Mike

[Skimmerking]

you dont have to get defeinsve I am stating my opinion, I just threw a list of what to find out. budget can be there at the top no one said it wasn't.
People get into this hobby for one reason to prove that they can do it and want to see beauty in their homes. Yes its $$$$$ when you get into this Hobby its going to cost you. Yes Im aware of the $$$ on a skimmer and yes you dont have to pay lots now for a pump to make bubbles. I'm not attacking you. I'm making a opinion of mine about other skimmers that have been in the past like the Euroreef and sedra pumps. If you want to talk PM me I'm not going to push on someone thread. I gave my response and will wait to hear from him.

thanks man you have a great day too

[Reef Supplies]

Im not getting defensive, just replying to your statement "Sorry vendors Im speaking my mind and giving my opinion"

I know you're not attacking, we are having a discussion and we (even retailers) are entitled to our opinions.


Ray