Flame angel... I give up...

[burtonboi]

150 gal 15% water change weekly


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[Ryanerickson]

Holy crap like 30 fish bit much for a 150 in my opinion

[whatcaneyedo]

I wouldn't dream of putting that many together in a medium size tank. I think you found your problem.

[Misses.ReefWars]

Originally Posted by whatcaneyedo

I wouldn't dream of putting that many together in a medium size tank. I think you found your problem.

But are we basing the number of fish to dimension size or gallons ?

Seems to me a 24 x 24 x 72 is not as good as a 72 x 24 x 24 or is it?

[mikellini]

There comes a point where too much is too much. This is waaay past that point IMO. It's not like we're discussing adding one or two large tangs here; that stocking list is cramped no matter what the dimensions are, and would be heavy stocking in a 240 IMO

Also, if a coral beauty was added at the same time as the flame angel both times, how is it that you only have one? Did you remove and then re-add the same one?

[reefwars]

Originally Posted by mikellini

There comes a point where too much is too much. This is waaay past that point IMO. It's not like we're discussing adding one or two large tangs here; that stocking list is cramped no matter what the dimensions are, and would be heavy stocking in a 240 IMO

Also, if a coral beauty was added at the same time as the flame angel both times, how is it that you only have one? Did you remove and then re-add the same one?

No we are discussing adding a flame angel which is a fairly small fish . I'm not saying he's under stocked but I'm just curious how people base this off the
Only info which given was a gallon amount only.

So Based on what exactly though ?

So it comes down to gallons in your opinion right? 150 , 240 , 500 ...just numbers really and has no real interest into the fishes actual requirements do they?

Is the equivalent of 30 x 1" tangs any better or worse than 3 x 10" tangs

I get the moral part of adding fish to an aquarium ,even in general , but how do you base it off of gallons alone and what variables do the fish themselves offer?

[reefwars]

I guess it's all just personal opinion which is what i hd thought as no one has stated why one is more optimal then the other?

So is one persons personal opinion something we can make a user guideline off?

I doubt there is no real answer to this but only a person to person opion which I bet varies.

If I were to make a public pole asking what is better for a group of 10 x 4" tangs

What option do you think would win

72 x 72 x 20

Or a

144 x 30 x 20

Clearly e first one has more volume but 12 ft from the bobby point of view is a lot of swimming room and surely we all know from experience that 30" is great width...lots of good tanks out there with 20" in heit.

But by gallons the first is more , a lot more lol

[reefwars]

How about coral placement , liverock etc.

Is an empty 150g any better than one filled with rocks? If so how much worse is one that is only partially filled with rocks

I think a dimensions of tank , equipment rating and individual fish assessment is a much better way to determine if you have too many fish or not , not just gallon numbers which have little information unless we're dealing in ppm.

Is a circle any better than a triangle or a deep cube to a rectangle?

I also assume we're only talking about display size correct not total volume , so if a fish had a tunnel to. Swim to another tank do we count it s two 150g and treat as individuals or do we count it as 300g and treat as a 300g?

[intarsiabox]

It's not uncommon for the stresses of capture and shipment to kill a fish within the first couple weeks. If you can quarantine your new fish alone for 4 weeks in a hypo salinity environment it will be a great way to get the fish in tip top shape before adding him to a busy tank. Just remember to drip acclimate him over a couple hours before adding him to the DT. As for the fish that died after 2 months it's hard to say.

[mikellini]

I was basing my thoughts on the idea of water volume, not dimensions. I don't care how you stretch it, that's not enough gallons for the stock list